Iraqi soldiers already surrendering -- oops.

[Vesayen]

IF this is true I cannot imagine why the English would send them back.....if NOTHING else let them defect......

If they are identified, the iraqi soldiers who defected are dead men and if nothing else-if this story gets out around iraq this will DISCOURAGE more surrenders when the shooting starts!!!

[Agathon]

Originally posted by faded glory

Medina Ridge, 73 Easting, and Khafjii. Look up the battles on Google, you will be enlightened. I promise you.

I fail to see how this is relevant to anything I said. They didn't want to fight and had nothing to gain by doing so.

"We shall see about the RG. I have a policy of not believeing Gulf War propaganda, based on talking to people who were there. "

Theres no propaganda to it. They were crushed, over 50,000 Iraqi soldiers dead... 62,000 prisoners. 62000 ! When all was said and done 500 Coalition troops were dead, half to friendly fire and 1/4 were saudi's.

Jesus Christ. It's a war, of course there is propaganda. Talk to veterans about it and see what they say. And I fail to see how the results from attacking an enemy in open territory with superior armour will translate into an easy time in an urban environment.

As I said, we shall see. Attempting to make concrete predictions now is useless. I for one based on past experience tend to be wary of attempts to belittle one's foes.

"Anyway, the interesting stuff happens the day after the war ends. Every Iraqui with a gun and a grudge against the US is going to go shooting. And it looks like being a target rich environment."

Ya right...like the afgans

Yeah, you try roving around outside of Kabul and Kandahar and see how far you get. The place is a basket case.

[Panag]

hi ,

no wonder they are allready giving up , the coalition is dropping more and more leaflets with the hour , ....

have a nice day and dont forget to surrender

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[Agathon]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Maybe they are trying to take the record time off the WWII Italians for spontaneous surrendering. They gotta get something out of this mess.

They'll find the Italians hard to beat though, which may have prompted the false start

This is the kind of c**p I'm talking about. By and large Italian troops were hopeless but it depends on their training and equipment. I remember reading about some Brits who went up against the Italians expecting an easy time and took a real beating because these particular Italians were elite units.

Making your sort of claim is implicitly racist. Well trained and well equipped troops with high morale fight well, poorly equipped troops with little training are only good for harassing civilians.

Similarly, people fighting in defence of their homes and families tend to risk more than those who aren't. People fighting to preserve their independence (i.e. Kurds) tend to fight even harder.

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[Agathon]

Why is there a photoshopped picture of Muhammad Ali in these leaflets?

Those are so lame that Iraqis should start shooting "coalition" aircraft just for the insult to their intelligence.

[Panag]

well , if this one does not turn you around , ......

[Panag]

this is an intresting one , ....

[Panag]

true , a lot of children and people have died because of defensive actions taken by saddam , they dont even mark minefields , ....

[Panag]

hmmm , ....

[raghar]

I'm disgraphic and I would be ashemed of myself if I'd draw such ****y pictures. (sorry Ming)

Most thing from this pictures is uter crap and if anybody would believe them he should be for sometime without food just to clear his mind.
There is a lot of US wishfull thinking and from millitary view there is a lot of xxxxxxx (I think Ming would be offended by another ugly word) bad informations TM.

If Iraqui would do excactly what they are told to not, US showed them a lot of uducational pictures.

panaq be a little mercifull to people without ADSL. Use better comprimation.

[Alexander's Horse]

The leaflets are in English?

Jeez, that will be effective