Apolyton debate strategies

[Drake Tungsten]

I'm impressed with Agathon's quick ascendance to the position of "Fez of the left". I didn't think that Sava could be dethroned so easily, but this plucky Kiwi has shown us all the power that comes with a complete detachment from reality. Bravo, Agathon! I pray that the Swiss won't dethrone you as well...

[GePap]

Drake illustrates another common strategy;

The Fezzing strategy: debase the opinions of others by comparing them to Fez.

[Drake Tungsten]

I don't see how mocking fools qualifies as a debating strategy...

[GePap]

Because while Agathon has strong opinions that disagree with yours, he is not a fool: your attempt tp undermine what he says by calling hima fool then is a debating strategy.

As for Faux News: I always laugh when i see one of their posters: fair and balanced, we report, you decide... Left or Right, Faux has the mosty biased newscasters around, regularly givng their opinons on the air. Tha is not unbiased journalism. As far as using Faux as a source, i look only at those things that can be called quantifable facts in their stories, skip everything else.

[Drake Tungsten]

Saying people who watch Fox News are on crack is pretty foolish in my book...

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

"The pre-potty training Libertarian"-

Typified by use of the phrase "I have the right to say absolutely anything I want and if you find it offensive it's your fault!!!!!" after posting something astonishingly foul and mindless. Followed shortly after by a banning, after which they return to use all means possible to demonstrate what a heroic martyr to the cause of liberty they are, and how they have been silenced by the evil censors. Then they announce that the site no longer provides sufficient levels of intellectual stimulation and that they are leaving forever. Then they come back. Then they start noticing that girl's chests are different to theirs and ****ing get over it.

Who does this?- There have been far, far too many of the tedious little jerks to name.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by obiwan18
I think I fall in the 'provides sources' section.

UR just lets inconvenient threads sink.

I don't deal with dogpiles.

[Agathon]

Oh come on, I was half joking but Fox News is terrible. It's biased and sleazy. CNN is better, but not by that much. Ann Coulter is clearly deranged and suffering from a sort of persecution mania.

I'll admit that the Guardian is biased to the left, but at least it is in an intelligent way, just as A & L Daily is slightly to the right and still thoughtful.

All I'm saying is that the Rush Limbaughs of this world are not to be taken seriously while intelligent right wing columnists are.

[Sandman]

Let's see...

There's the "the Guardian is toilet paper" response, in which the respected British broadsheet is compared to the gutter press.

The oh so funny "Troll Rating".

The retro-chic "Jewish conspiracy". I think we all know who I mean.

The ever popular "Haven't read any part of the thread, not even the opening post" response. Makes no sense at all.

My tactic, the "Fishing" post. I place a small innocuous post with a snide comment. When somebody challenges me, I justify my comment with a large, intimidating, post. Of course, sometimes this backfires.

Another tactic is the "Amazing fact attack". This involves dropping an little known fact which tips up all the assumptions that were being used prior to the post.

[Az]

There's the "the Guardian is toilet paper" response, in which the respected British broadsheet is compared to the gutter press.

Well, respected by whom? Honestly, the same is done with FOX.

they both deserve it.

[monolith94]

the amazing fact attack can not hold a candle to an
AMAZING RAP ATTACK!

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Sandman
The oh so funny "Troll Rating".

How did we miss that one?

[GePap]

I think propaganda in the Stalin thread has taken the Verdun strategy so fas as to make it a different one:

The Operation Bagration strategy:

A deluge of writing so immese an enemy can't possibly cover his entire front, and any time someone points to an issue, you state it was more than comprehensively covered in the steamroller.. true or not, the enemy will ahrdly be able to really check.

[Sirotnikov]

Sandman - who'se the jewish conspirator?

Agathon - you actually tend (from 2 or 3 threads i saw of yours) to start flashing personal knowledge rather quickly.

Ex:
Siro: I think that XX
Agathon: Well then you're in disagreement with the YYY theory developed by the ancient TTT as described in the famous OOOO by GGGG. But hey, you asked!

[monkspider]

Originally posted by GePap
I think propaganda in the Stalin thread has taken the Verdun strategy so fas as to make it a different one:

The Operation Bagration strategy:

A deluge of writing so immese an enemy can't possibly cover his entire front, and any time someone points to an issue, you state it was more than comprehensively covered in the steamroller.. true or not, the enemy will ahrdly be able to really check.

I like that one.