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    I have noticed different posters employ different debate strategies here at Apolyton. Here are a few I have noticed, I apologize if anyone feels misrepresented. Feel free to add.

    The guerilla warfare doctrine- This debate doctrine focuses on short, possibly out of context snippets of another users post to throw them off, and force surrender.
    Practioners: Beserker, formerly Ethelred

    The dogpile doctrine- This strategy relies on overwhelming army of posts to break the opponent's will to resist when the enemy cannot counter. In other words, the goal here is to post the opponent white. This doctrine relies on quanity, not necessarily quality to defeat the enemy.
    practioners: Asher, the battle of Verdun

    The skirmish doctrine- This strategy relies on short, witty or sarcastic statements, or clever sayings. The goal is to overwhelm the enemy with wit as to force an immediate surrender.
    practioners: Ming, DinoD, Imran, sometimes Frogger

    The schlieffen plan doctrine: This strategy believes that most wars must be won within the first few posts, or else it will be drawn out into a long, acrimonious, stalemate. Those who practise this doctrine usually go for a quick, decisive victory, or else just give up.
    practioners: DinoD, Monkspider

    the mutually ignored destruction doctrine: this primitive, yet brutual strategy relies on the concept of the flame post to attempt to flame the enemy to a fine crisp, even if it means the poster's own destruction by means of flame warfare.
    practioners: Sloww, Sava, Chris62

    the modern war doctrine: certain highly advanced posters have access to a new technology in warfare, which has been dubbed the "cited source". This breakthrough in posting allows these posters to quote reputable scholarly sources to back up their arguements, often leaving the opponents helpless. Most of the advancements in this field are purely theoretical, but should prove key to the future of Apolyton warfare.
    practioners: MtG, Che, sometimes Frogger, Boris, Imran.

    the relentless offensive doctrine- Also known to some as the "broken record strategy", this doctrine relies on a steady, never-ceasing offensive against an enemy, regardless of the losses. Those who practise this strategy believe the dash and daring of the offensive will always win the day, no matter how catastrophically high the losses get.
    practioners: Chris62, many other minor powers

    The Fezzian doctrine: Also known in some circles as the "BAM" doctrine. There is some debate over the history of the latter name. Some say it stems from a comment from made by General Boris Godunov in the heat of battle against the doctrine's originator, Fez I. When faced with the piecemeal assault, Boris exclaimed to his handsome young aide, "Egad, he fights like a bald-faced assertion man!" Students of medevial history however believe the name originates from a ragtag hermit named Boshko who led the illfated Squirrel Crusade in 1213. Some documents from the period show that he may have referred to Fez I's predecessor, Giancarlo the magnificent, as a bald-faced assertion man as a result of a drunken quarrel. In any event, the name was later shortened to simply BAM. This doctrine bases itself philosophically on Nietzschean ideas of a "super post" or "uber post" that overrides all others, regardless of their merit. Unfortunately, when put into practise, this doctrine has only met with tragic results.
    practioners: Fez

    Other posters, AFAIK, simply use the "try to win the debate" doctrine, though I am sure there are plenty of doctrines i have left out, and more posters who subscribe to the aforementioned doctrines than I have listed.

    -edit updated to include a couple missing doctrines
    Last edited by monkspider; March 7, 2003, 04:35.
    http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

  • #2
    Dodgeball Debate: Stating facts rather than opinion. Often used by me, lately in my "Is the UN failed?" thread

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    • #3
      The dogpile doctrine- This strategy relies on overwhelming army of posts to break the opponent's will to resist when the enemy cannot counter. In other words, the goal here is to post the opponent white. This doctrine relies on quanity, not necessarily quality to defeat the enemy.
      practioners: Asher, the battle of Verdun
      Oh, blah.

      I'm starting to branch out, no one really argues with me in the computer threads anymore.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #4
        An interesting thread to say the least...

        However, a warning. Do NOT use this thread to insult fellow members. It's ok to classify people's debating style, but I don't want to see things like... The Moron approach...
        Keep on Civin'
        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • #5
          frozzy, you simply didnt reply to his question.
          "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
          'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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          • #6
            I'd use modern war doctrine if ever there was a debate on Apolyton that I felt truly passionate about. As of now though...
            "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
            Drake Tungsten
            "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
            Albert Speer

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            • #7
              I agree completely Ming, I should have included such a warning in my original post.
              http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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              • #8
                What question? He said:

                Feel free to add.
                So I added.

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                • #9


                  Very amusing . I see I've made the list twice... I feel I should make a witty statement, or at the very least cite to something .
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                    Very amusing . I see I've made the list twice... I feel I should make a witty statement, or at the very least cite to something .
                    Yeah, I guess you have made a strong impression on me Immerz.
                    http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                    • #11
                      The important thing to note is that no one else on Apolyton is unique but me...
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #12
                        I almost put UR on the dogpile doctrine list, but I couldn't decide if it fit him enough to justify it.
                        I did think it would be ironic to have both you and UR on the same trait though.
                        http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                        • #13
                          I didn't get mentioned once. Does this mean all my time spent here is wasted time?

                          Wait, I already knew that it was...
                          KH FOR OWNER!
                          ASHER FOR CEO!!
                          GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                          • #14
                            There is also the Broken Record Strategy...
                            Somebody just keeps saying the same thing over and over again, totally ignoring any of the responses in the thread... knowing that people will tire of the game and get bored, leaving him the victor, but only because nobody else is willing to play anymore.
                            Keep on Civin'
                            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                            • #15
                              what about Fez? id call that style GODZILLA
                              "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                              'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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