I got jumped

[Alexander's Horse]

Better to live somewhere else if you can.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Azazel

well, maybe in Loisiana it IS a rational suspicion.

In any case, this is very wrong, AND dangerous.

The first time I heard of it I thought that it could lend itself to abuse. It was an example of the different thinking here ie You have a right to defend yourself and your home and that doesnt mean you jump through hoops before doing so.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Azazel
the fact they were trying to mug him, and he drew a gun is a pretty good sign. they should've raised their arms and stopped.

Given that he kept firing at the ones who were running away, every last one of them would have died had he done that.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Frogger

Spence, you're scaring me.

The wise man avoids confrontation but wins those that occur. You're safe so long as you dont try to hurt me or mine.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by SpencerH


I'm afraid of very little. I know how to fight with and without weapons. If you want to win (and live) you hit first and hard and you dont stop. Your naivte is that you dont know that.

Oh yes. No one who'd shoot someone in the back is afraid of anything. No sir.

If you wheren't afraid, you'd confront the person instead of blowing a hole through his head before he even sees you.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by SpencerH


Just how is my shooting someone breaking into my house pre-meditated?

If you have the intent to kill and there are less forceful options reasonably available to you to protect yourself then you're guilty of premeditated murder.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by SpencerH


The wise man avoids confrontation but wins those that occur. You're safe so long as you dont try to hurt me or mine.

Or give the impression that I might do so?

Great.

[Alexander's Horse]

*gives Spencer a big manly hug*

[SlowwHand]

I concur, Spencer. Get the, err, funk, outta my face and house.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by SpencerH


The wise man avoids confrontation but wins those that occur. You're safe so long as you dont try to hurt me or mine.

This is almost a direct quote from a John Wayne movie - showing the huge influence Wayne had on American men.

[Az]

Frogger:
Ok, so I guess we can agree on "freeze, or I'll shoot"

Spencer:

I'm afraid of very little. I know how to fight with and without weapons. If you want to win (and live) you hit first and hard and you dont stop. Your naivte is that you dont know that.

Are you aware of the chances that you'll make a mistake, and will kill a person who doesn't deserve it?

The first time I heard of it I thought that it could lend itself to abuse. It was an example of the different thinking here ie You have a right to defend yourself and your home and that doesnt mean you jump through hoops before doing so.

What's the hoop? verbal warning? warning shot? oh wow, we sure try too hard too keep people from dying, don't we.

[Sten Sture]

No hoops.

Flee and call for help, but if that is not possible:

Fire first, from cover, without warning. Take out mobility, vision, and ability to retaliate.

Then call for clean up.



Che - glad you are all right.

[Az]

Sten: is this the required procedure in these cases? I don't think that running away for help is the correct, if the owner of the house is armed. I think it would be better if the owner of the house would lock the intruder in a room or something.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If you have the intent to kill and there are less forceful options reasonably available to you to protect yourself then you're guilty of premeditated murder.

Spot on. Premeditation means purposeful or knowing intent to kill. It can only be reduced to manslaughter by provocation that places you in an enraged state, so you had no intent, but was merely reflexive. Hardly any court would say that breaking and entering is enough for provocation.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Osweld


Oh yes. No one who'd shoot someone in the back is afraid of anything. No sir.

If you wheren't afraid, you'd confront the person instead of blowing a hole through his head before he even sees you.

Perhaps you cant read. At no point did I say I would shoot someone in the back. But just so we're clear on it, to protect myself and my family I sure would.

I notice you have a french flag, no wonder you know nothing about defending yourself.