I got jumped

[Imran Siddiqui]

In Lousiana (for example)

Louisiana is a Civil Law state, which means it is different from everywhere else.

Guess what. If you're lying in my house dead you dont get much of a vote. You havent been in the south for long have you?

Even the South is changing. They are more and more following the Model Penal Code. You won't be able to escape liability for premeditated murder for much longer, I assume.

[Az]

What the heck does "rational" mean?

[Gibsie]

Like, if a guy runs towards your car and is black, the police would probably consider that as a rational suspicion, or can you just shoot at anyone you like and tell the police you suspected he was a carjacker to get off any charges?

[Az]

if a guy runs towards your car and is black

well, maybe in Loisiana it IS a rational suspicion.

In any case, this is very wrong, AND dangerous.

[Pekka]

I'm sorry to hear that Che.. That kind of stuff can make people paranoid. The chances are that this was not the first time these guys did something like this, and chances are they will do it again, to someone else. But there is some comfort in it too, probably they will get caught some day, and they surely are not having any personal hard feelings for you. That means you're pretty safe, or as safe as you were before the attack. I hope you're ok mentally though, maybe you got traumatized, but you will be ok, time makes it better.

I don't know about the area or dangers you have to deal with or the trend about kids having guns where you live.
I'd get a gun, but I wouldn't carry it with me, just for home. However there has been some mistakes before, since this happened to you. You were caught by surprise and that makes your ability to defend yourself a lot weaker. Of course you can't assume that every kid is going to attack you.. I think it's important to know how to react in these kind of situations, and train and educate yourself against these kinds of situations. You have to make sure you're not caught by surprise, so you can defend yourself intelligently. Positioning yourself right way, being able to control your fear and adrenaline and use it against the attackers or escape, not against yourself by freezing up. It happens a lot, freezing up and not being able to think fast. In this situation escaping was the only good thing to do, so kudos to you.
If you are fairly physical and able to defend without weapons, don't be afraid to hit attacker. Just hit them hard and many times, even when they're already in the ground. Make sure they won't get up and pull a gun on you when you turn your back. And when you think they've had enough, hit them little more and call the cops. Be mean and nasty. Bite if you have to. If it gets life threatening, push your fingers through the attackers eyes hard, it should work. Kick to the balls. JUst don't do the mistake of not defending strong enough and giving the attacker a chance to counter.

You'll be ok, I'm sure.

[KrazyHorse]

In Lousiana (for example) I can defend myself by shooting you if I suspect that you are about the car jack me. That recent law has cut down on the number of car-jackings substantially.

Brilliant.

Spence, you're scaring me.

[KrazyHorse]

So somebody walks too near your car and you can whip out the old pump-action?

[KrazyHorse]

And Bernie Getz should have landed up in jail. As soon as the potential muggers were no longer a direct threat to him he had the responsibility to stop firing.

As for me, I'm glad I don't have to ride the metro in a district where Bernie's cousin would get off.

[Az]

"Excuse me, dear sir, your blocking my.."

*pow**pow**pow*

[Az]

Frogger: that situation is a bit different. Those people admitted that they tried to rob him. I don't think he should've shot them without warning, but if he would warn them to freeze, why shouldn't he be able to stop them? He could call the police, and arrest them.

[KrazyHorse]

He shot some of them while they were running away, and AFAIK did not give any warning whatsoever.

[Az]

the fact they were trying to mug him, and he drew a gun is a pretty good sign. they should've raised their arms and stopped.

[SlowwHand]

One thing I want to know; and it's related more to the other thread about your new gig than this one where you got kicked to the curb .
Now that you'll have bucks coming in, can I pick out your new boots?
Lord knows the only taste you've shown so far is with your wife.

So how about it? Personal shopper for the day?

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Azazel

How is that naive? All I ask is that the necessary precautions will be taken. If I am naive, what you're afraid of?

I'm afraid of very little. I know how to fight with and without weapons. If you want to win (and live) you hit first and hard and you dont stop. Your naivte is that you dont know that.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Even the South is changing. They are more and more following the Model Penal Code. You won't be able to escape liability for premeditated murder for much longer, I assume.

Just how is my shooting someone breaking into my house pre-meditated?