North Korea

[Q Classic]

oh, please. all of them want to see saddam go; after all, who doesn't? (well, we also probably all hope he doesn't become satan's gay lover...)

but it also appears as if most of the nations in that reason barely support the us; sure, these countries will support the us when the time comes, but they don't seem at all happy about it.

indeed, most of them are most wary of the aftermath of the event, something which the bush administration has not been too clear on. iran doesn't want the sunni minority (currently in power) to be wiped out by bitter shiites in the aftermath; the others don't want a kurdistan; the kurds want their own state; the iraqi exiles are divided on how to approach the reconstruction; the saudis and the other arabs don't want a fertile recruiting ground for al-qaeda and other terrorist groups.

bush is going to go to war, there's no doubt about that. noone in the arab world is excited at the prospect, and no doubt all of them want some idea of what's going to happen after the regime changes.

as for speaking of libya, no, i wasn't. as far as i know, he doesn't give a damn about what happens to iraq, so long as he stays in power and can use it as propaganda against the "great american satan".

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by PLATO1003
Took US hostages at the university?

Assuming that was a real incident and not manufactured.

So the US invaded another country and forced a regime change for that, breaking international law in the process?

Seems to be just an excuse to me.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Spiffor
However, I do think the US, like Japan and possibly China, is considering a second Korea war as one of the options (even though these considerations don't make it to the media, unlike the war in Iraq).

That is implausible.

The only place the US can build up is RoK, who will not let the US do such a thing. Besides, DPRK will likely to attack if US attempts any buildup.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Assuming that was a real incident and not manufactured.

So the US invaded another country and forced a regime change for that, breaking international law in the process?

Seems to be just an excuse to me.

No, it was a capital offense threatening the security of the US and world stability.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Assuming that was a real incident and not manufactured.

What proof do you have that we faked it? You aren't one of those people that believes that the moon landing was faked too are you?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


That is implausible.

The only place the US can build up is RoK, who will not let the US do such a thing. Besides, DPRK will likely to attack if US attempts any buildup.

OKey, granted you're right. War against NK seems unplausible now. However, how would the Japanese plan their attack on NK ?

[Urban Ranger]

If the Japanese dude was not bluffing, e.g. gaining political capital, the only thing they can do is to conduct a raid to destroy certain nuclear facilities. Like what Israel did to Iraq.

[Q Classic]

the japanese doesn't have a large enough navy to mount an amphibious invasion of nkorea.

also, it's likely that any attack by japan on nkorea would polarize the region--nobody wants to see an aggressive japan, so skorea might well break of all ties with japan in that case, perhaps even go so far as to defend nkorea in a limited manner.

the us would be relegated to a peacekeeping role, trying to keep the japanese and the koreans from killing each other.

as for china... it might just well defend nkorea as well against japanese aggression. lotta bitter history in that part of the world.

[DanS]

so skorea might well break of all ties with japan in that case, perhaps even go so far as to defend nkorea in a limited manner

That's quite unlikely.

[Q Classic]

i wouldn't say that. japan and skorea might be buddy-buddy, but it's between governments and started only as an alliance of convenience.

you'd be hard pressed to find a korean who would favor japan over north korea.

perhaps not defend nkorea, you might be right. but i wouldn't be surprised if skorea and japan ended up sharply split in such an event.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
i wouldn't say that. japan and skorea might be buddy-buddy, but it's between governments and started only as an alliance of convenience.

you'd be hard pressed to find a korean who would favor japan over north korea.

perhaps not defend nkorea, you might be right. but i wouldn't be surprised if skorea and japan ended up sharply split in such an event.

I completely don't understand your logic. ROK would not defend DPRK from anything. Depending on the circumstances, ROK could make protest but that would about be it. Far to many economic reasons for Japan and ROK to get along and almost none for ROK and DPRK to get along.