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    the poll will focus on the convicted killer.

    There is another issue bothering conservatives as well. The fact that someone can illegally enter this country and jump to the top of an organ donation list just because they are an illegal alien. I'm not sure if this is the case. I have no idea how that girl jumped in line for the organ donation list.

    And what about celebrities? How do they jump to the top of organ donation lists?

    The whole system is corrupt if you ask me. There has to be some major money changing hands somewhere.
    31
    yes
    54.84%
    17
    no
    35.48%
    11
    she should get a banana inserted into where her liver should be
    9.68%
    3

  • #2
    In my opinion, organ-transplant patients should be prioritized according to state of health, age, and family status like this:

    1. People who are likely to die within weeks if they don't get a transplant should be first in line whenever an organ becomes available, then...

    2. Children and young adults age 21 and under.

    3. Parents with children under the age of 18.

    4. Parents with children over 18.

    5. Everybody else.

    According to these criteria, the murderer would be in category 4. And where medical decisions are concerned, her status as a convict should be immaterial.
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    • #3
      Granted there may be more deserving people who need transplants given this woman's age (68), but why the hell should her status as a convict prevent her from getting a liver transplant? Prison shouldn't be about punishment or causing people to suffer, but rehabilitation and protecting society (including inmates). The state can't rehabilitate or protect her if she dies from some liver condition.
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      • #4
        I'm with AnnC and Ramo.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by AnnC
          In my opinion, organ-transplant patients should be prioritized according to...family status
          Seems slightly discriminatory against homosexuals, the infertile and those who simply choose not to have children...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Clear Skies


            Seems slightly discriminatory against homosexuals, the infertile and those who simply choose not to have children...
            not OK, not OK, OK

            why don't we just support more adoption (and homosexuals adopting)?

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            • #7
              I say we help law-abiding citizens first. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. And last time I checked, dying from a failing liver is a natural cause. I guess my final answer would depend on the length of her sentence. In my America, killers would get the death penalty anyways. This way, the prison system doesn't have to waste the drugs with lethal injection.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #8
                Not just no, but Hell no.
                You who voted "Yes", are in need of drug testing.
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                • #9
                  Are Doctors allowed to make such distinctions, don't they have to go soley on clinical need
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                  • #10
                    i concur with sloww.

                    Taxpayers would pay up to $200,000 for Joy's transplant because of a 1976 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that prisoners have a constitutional right to equal medical care. The decision requires government entities to cover the medical costs of their inmates.


                    thats less than a dollar each! my dallah!

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                    • #11
                      I thought the US is civilised enough to give people a second chance?
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                      • #12
                        Not just no, but Hell no.
                        what if he gets a headache or severe diarreha? shouldn't he get treatment for that either?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Gangerolf


                          what if he gets a headache or severe diarreha? shouldn't he get treatment for that either?
                          i dont see how they could blow $200,000 on an asprin or some immodium ad, and i dont see how that would be possibly denying someone else asprin.
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                          • #14
                            I just got the impression he would deny her a new liver because she's a convict. Now that would be silly.
                            CSPA

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                            • #15
                              Unless the judge said something else the a person is sentenced to prison, not getting his or her health ignored. Then again there's the matter of the order on the list that could be debated.

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