Government Loyalty Poll

[OneFootInTheGrave]

If your government declared a "state of emergency" after a nuclear bomb exploded in a biggest city in your country, and told you to join the unit which will collect all the muslims in the town because they present a "terrorist" threat and send them in a " containment camp" (and you are guranteed that they will be treated fairly there) - would you do it, or refuse and risk being jailed or executed as a traitor?

[Demerzel]

hmm, "good treatment" eh? reminds me of that bit in the South Park film.

"All Canadians are to report to these death camps immediately, did I say death camps? I meant Happy Camps!"

I'd say no I wouldn't. I doubt the British govt. would start executing people for that though after a nuke went off, who'd know what would happen... Why they'd get civilians doing the police's/armies' job I dunno.

[The Mad Monk]

I'd say it's time for a revolution.

Option 2.

[Boris Godunov]

Opt. 3, I suppose. I would never participate in such a thing, but I wouldn't want to just refuse if it meant certain death. So I'd do my best to flee the country if it were in the hands of a such a tyrannical regime.

Opt. 4 would have been better had it not included killing the messenger. I couldn't do that, either.

[Az]

Of course, I would oppose it. Esp. if it is in the current intl. balance of power.

[Az]

About starting a guerilla uprising:

Yes, probably. But that depends on other sircumstances, as well.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Originally posted by Demerzel


"All Canadians are to report to these death camps immediately, did I say death camps? I meant Happy Camps!"

.

Exactly!


Well as for option 4 that means you will have to kill those who chose option 1 as you will be their official enemy (and they will try to kill you), so why not shoot the messenger straight and have one less to deal with later ( an old revolutionary rethoric ) However if you fell like more go into the opposition after saying yes (rather than fleeing, choose option 4 again, because you will have to kill the official line sooner or later)

I would probably be option 3 if my family is still OK - I'd say fcuk this lets go to Australia if they are still normal there. ( as that would be the best for me personally), but if my family was hurt by the government reasioning (or even the nuke attack) than option 4.


edit: well I should have that 5th option - say yes but join the guerilla opposition when first opportunity arises those who feel that way should still opt for option 4 as it is morally the closest (from my perspetive).

basically option 1 trusts the government or the authority, option 2 have their own moral values regardless of the authority and are willing to suffer for beleiving in them without imposing them on others, option 3 are ambigous people who want to do what is the best for themselves, and option 4 are the people who have their moral values and believe that they should be put in place no matter what the price of it to them or others.

[Az]

Well as for option 4 that means you will have to kill those who chose option 1 as you will be their official enemy (and they will try to kill you), so why not shoot the messenger straight and have one less to deal with later

If you go on killing people who are just supporters, you'll be hated by the masses.

[August Borms]

I'd be the first to join that unit.

[Urban Ranger]

You'll be doing that eventually, when armed forces clash. Makes very little difference.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
option 3 are ambigous people who want to do what is the best for themselves

I disagree. Einstein was neither ambiguous nor did what was only best for himself. Neither did Otto Klemperer, Bruno Walter, etc. These people fled Nazi Germany because they believed the government was wrong and that there was no power to fight it internally.

One can do a lot of things outside of a country to continue to resist its regime.

[Urban Ranger]

If you flee the country, your influence and actions become severely limited.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
If you flee the country, your influence and actions become severely limited.

Many prominent Germans who fled wrote passionately against the Nazis, and helped garner more international support for the Allied war effort, as well as bring to light the oppressive acts of the government.

[Gangerolf]

I'd join.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


I disagree. Einstein was neither ambiguous nor did what was only best for himself. Neither did Otto Klemperer, Bruno Walter, etc. These people fled Nazi Germany because they believed the government was wrong and that there was no power to fight it internally.

One can do a lot of things outside of a country to continue to resist its regime.

It is true what you say, but it is true that this option is the safest for the person involved. So that's why it's in, still I am sure if you fled the country that you will work in any way available to you to bring a change for the better if you can, still this is the safest option personally if you are not preapared to do option 1. (which is safer), as noone will actually oppose you as you are dealing with former immigrants only with government backing you up.