Government Loyalty Poll

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
If you flee the country, your influence and actions become severely limited.

Although their actions would be less limited than those who stayed and were slaughtered.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Opt. 3, I suppose. I would never participate in such a thing, but I wouldn't want to just refuse if it meant certain death. So I'd do my best to flee the country if it were in the hands of a such a tyrannical regime.

Opt. 4 would have been better had it not included killing the messenger. I couldn't do that, either.

Option 4.

The messenger is an accomplice in war crimes. Revolutionary justice+legitimate act of resistance

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Frogger


Option 4.

The messenger is an accomplice in war crimes. Revolutionary justice+legitimate act of resistance

Except that I don't want to kill anybody.

[KrazyHorse]

If you go on killing people who are just supporters, you'll be hated by the masses.

He's not just a supporter; he's an active agent for immoral government activities, and a recruiter for your enemy. He's both a legitimate target as part of a campaign to protect the populace from tyranny and also a legitimate military target for his role in recruiting.

[Static Universe]

Yes, but only if I can shoot a machine gun out of a dune buggy.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Except that I don't want to kill anybody.

A guerilla campaign usually involves killing people, as does any military action.

Are you an absolute pacifist?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Frogger


A guerilla campaign usually involves killing people, as does any military action.

Are you an absolute pacifist?

Not absolute, of course. But I would only kill someone if they were directly attempting to kill/harm me or someone else in that moment.

So if I were in a warfare scenario, I could kill an enemy soldier, as it is kill-or-be-killed. I think I would hate it immensely, though.

[DuncanK]

This is kind of wierd. If I refuse I get shot? Obviously if they are going to shoot people for not joining then they are lying about not harming the people in the camps. I would try not to get shot, but I would look for opportinities where I could do something significant to stop the fascists.

[KrazyHorse]

It also usually involves killing people not directly threatening your existence at that very moment, but who have declared their intention to aid your enemy in doing so (by either actually joining the military or becoming a de facto extension of the military.

In addition, say you're a guerilla operating in 1957 Cuba. You know that the mayor of a town is responsible for the continuing kidnapping, torture and murder of ordinary citizens on a wholesale basis. You know he'll keep it up unless you stop him, and the only way to stop him for now (until you eventually win the war) is to assassinate him (since imprisonment is not an option, given that you have no fixed bases and no resources to set up jails). Do you kill him?

[Jaguar]

I would say OK but then escape... maybe smuggle some Muslims over the border.

[KrazyHorse]

If I needed time to plan I'd say yes before going underground.

[loinburger]

Tough to say for certain exactly what I'd do, but my first inclination is that I'd probably go moderately ape**** on whichever extension of the federal government was most near at hand, and then make things up as I went along then there on out. It's difficult to say exactly how ape**** I'd go, though -- I never really know until it happens.

[Lord Merciless]

If a refusal means death, I would join. Only the living can affect the world. I would say yes and secretly sabbotage the effort.

BTW, how do we know the bomb is set off by Muslims?

[The Emperor Fabulous]

mmm..."The Siege"

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Frogger
It also usually involves killing people not directly threatening your existence at that very moment, but who have declared their intention to aid your enemy in doing so (by either actually joining the military or becoming a de facto extension of the military.

In addition, say you're a guerilla operating in 1957 Cuba. You know that the mayor of a town is responsible for the continuing kidnapping, torture and murder of ordinary citizens on a wholesale basis. You know he'll keep it up unless you stop him, and the only way to stop him for now (until you eventually win the war) is to assassinate him (since imprisonment is not an option, given that you have no fixed bases and no resources to set up jails). Do you kill him?

I could just refuse to answer on the basis that I'm not in such a situation and likely never will be, so it's just a waste of time.

But if I knew for certain he was a horrible bastard and my killing him would save lives, and there were no other way to stop him, I'd probably bring myself to do it.

That's a far cry, however, from killing a messenger. It would be just as easy to lie to him, or maybe if worst comes to worst knock him out and then flee to a guerilla group.