Under what circumstances (no pun intended) is circumcision acceptable?

[Sava]

Sh1t happens man, I do think, however, my kid has a better chance of being the new Judeo-Christian messiah than dying from a circumcision.

Nice try though TB...

I wonder how many circumsized men are truly unhappy with their shlongs and wish they weren't circumsized. I've never met one.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Why? Keep in mind that, considering the current trends, by the time they are of an age when they will be having their schlongs looked at, they'll be the "weird" ones. Won't you just be contributing to their being potentially mocked for being different?

There's no reason for you to do it. Why rob them of the choice of being cut or not? I don't think it's your right to make such a decision for them.

Which again relates to you cultural community. Of youre trying to raise a jewish child, do you want them to look "normal" at the Y, but look "weird" at the JCC. And to look normal to non-Jewish partners, but to have major "explaining" to do with a Jewish partner? This goes beyond the specific religious injunctions.

[Asher]

The health issues of circumcision...

Detailed link can be given upon a PM request, in addition to much more information it contains pictures which I'm not sure if I'd get banned for.

Objective
To assess the type and amount of tissue missing from the adult circumcised penis.
Materials and methods
The gross and histological features of the prepuces of 22 adults obtained at autopsy were assessed, primarily focusing on the inner or mucosal surface of the prepuce.
Results
Skin and mucosa sufficient to cover the penile shaft was frequently missing from the circumcised penis. Missing tissue included a band of ridged mucosa located at the junction of true penile skin with smooth preputial mucosa. This ridged band contains more Meissner's corpuscles than does the smooth mucosa and exhibits features of specialized sensory mucosa.
Conclusion
The amount of tissue loss estimated in the present study is more than most parents envisage from pre-operative counselling. Circumcision also ablates junctional mucosa that appears to be an important component of the overall sensory mechanism of the human penis.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Sava
I wonder how many circumsized men are truly unhappy with their shlongs and wish they weren't circumsized. I've never met one.

That's not really the point. Circumcized men generally don't know what they're missing anyway, they're usually circumcized their entire life.

The point is, there's more risk than benefit medically from circumcision, which is why the Canadian Pediatric Society (among many others) do not recommend the procedure unless for religious or other medical reasons...

Just admit that you'd get your boys circumcized so they'd look like daddy and save your time, Sava.

[MRT144]

asher, master of schlong

[Zero]

Isnt it free if you get your boys circumcized at birth?

Hospital ad- "Pop a boy out of Uterus now and get a circumcision free!"



one more thing. Arent bananas circumcized before being eaten anyway? I've never seen a person NOT peeling the skin off before eating it.

[Stuie]

Funny thing is, we didn't have it done and they tried to bill the insurance company for it anyway.... to the tune of several hundred dollars.

So no, it's not free. Nothing is free in a hospital, you just don't see the charges going back to the insurance company if you have a flat copay and ignore all those "This is not a bill" statements.

[Asher]

It used to be "free" in Canada, but a long time ago now they removed it from coverage.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Stuie
Funny thing is, we didn't have it done and they tried to bill the insurance company for it anyway.... to the tune of several hundred dollars.

So no, it's not free. Nothing is free in a hospital, you just don't see the charges going back to the insurance company if you have a flat copay and ignore all those "This is not a bill" statements.

well at least y'all dont have to pay for refreshments, invitations, etc.

[Asher]

My Israeli neighbor invited me to her son's Bris years ago...quite an odd feeling really.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


Which again relates to you cultural community. Of youre trying to raise a jewish child, do you want them to look "normal" at the Y, but look "weird" at the JCC. And to look normal to non-Jewish partners, but to have major "explaining" to do with a Jewish partner? This goes beyond the specific religious injunctions.

My post was directed specifically at Sava, who is neither Jewish nor religious, as he himself gladly affirms.

asher, master of schlong

Hey! If anyone should be bowed to as a Poobah of the Penis, it is I! On your knees!

[Stuie]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


well at least y'all dont have to pay for refreshments, invitations, etc.

Too true!

[Az]

Hey! If anyone should be bowed to as a Poobah of the Penis, it is I! On your knees!

I was circumsized at age 8, so it was me who made the decision.

In any case, I think that under the current status quo, I think it should be left to the parents to decide. I am leaning stongly to ban it, or something, but the society is not ready for this.

Female mutilation: disgusting, and should be persecuted.

[Eli]

As long as it's performed by certified doctors, I dont care.

Currently in Israel most of the circumcisions are performed by Rabbies. The are trained for this, but still.

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Hey! If anyone should be bowed to as a Poobah of the Penis, it is I! On your knees!

If that's your best pickup line, you better count on some lonely nights.