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**DeathByTheSword** · February 28, 2003, 11:31

....anyways....slowwhand when can you say that a person is Alive and a person....when they are just one cell big....or maybe 2 cells big....or maybe when they got a heart?

I believe and that is totally my own view at even after you are born you are not really alive....only when you are aware of yourself and your actions your are really alive...just think back to you first memory....that is when you started to live....so got give me that crap of abortion is the same as murder....

**TheStinger** · February 28, 2003, 11:33

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword

I believe and that is totally my own view at even after you are born you are not really alive....only when you are aware of yourself and your actions your are really alive...just think back to you first memory....that is when you started to live....so got give me that crap of abortion is the same as murder....

Have you benn watching the matrix too much

**Asher** · February 28, 2003, 11:35

Originally posted by MRT144
Stuie, actually there hasnt been a documented case of penile cancer in circumsized people.

That's just a myth, according to medical journals, and circumcizion has no impact on cancer rates.

**DeathByTheSword** · February 28, 2003, 11:36

.....Like i said it is my view on live....i do not believe in killing babies after they are like 6 or 7 months going but in the very early stages i believe in abortion

**Urban Ranger** · February 28, 2003, 11:36

Originally posted by Gangerolf
abortion is a sort of death penalty isn't it.

Are you a strict vegetarian by any chance?

**DeathByTheSword** · February 28, 2003, 11:37

circumcizion and AIDS are related not circumcizion and cancer!

**TheStinger** · February 28, 2003, 11:38

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword

.....Like i said it is my view on live....i do not believe in killing babies after they are like 6 or 7 months going but in the very early stages i believe in abortion

You don't mean 6 months after birth do you

**DeathByTheSword** · February 28, 2003, 11:40

no sorry...i couldnt find the right words...i ment when the pregnancy is 6 or 7 months on its way....after birth someone comes (kinda :P) alive.....that would be killing but in the first 3 months (before gender is visible) i believe in abortion

**Kropotkin** · February 28, 2003, 11:48

I'm personally against the killing of humans. As unborn and babies up to the age around one year isn't humans in my book there's not a problem at all to be prima facie against the death penalty and for abortions.

**MRT144** · February 28, 2003, 12:10

maybe youre right asher, master of shlong!

**Gangerolf** · February 28, 2003, 13:07

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

Are you a strict vegetarian by any chance?

no... why?

**DinoDoc** · February 28, 2003, 13:10

Originally posted by Kropotkin
I'm personally against the killing of humans. As unborn and babies up to the age around one year isn't humans in my book

**SlowwHand** · February 28, 2003, 13:16

See the kind of people we're surrounded by, Doc?
Scary as Hell, isn't it ?

**Urban Ranger** · February 28, 2003, 13:42

Originally posted by Gangerolf
no... why?

Because before a fetus gains sentience, it is no different from a swine or a duck. If you are against abortion under any circumstances, you should also be a strict vegetarian.

**Urban Ranger** · February 28, 2003, 13:44

Originally posted by SlowwHand
See the kind of people we're surrounded by, Doc?
Scary as Hell, isn't it ?

My question to you, Sloww, is why do you care about these babies when you couldn't care less about the Iraqi soldiers and civilians and US soldiers who are going to die in Gulf War II?

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