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    A website used by tens of thousands of people every day that offered information on bootlegged video games and movies has been shut down by the US Government.
    The Justice Department took over the domain name, isonews.com, after its owner pleaded guilty to selling modification chips that would allow gamers to play bootleg video games on Microsoft's Xbox console.

    The site's owner, David Rocci, fell foul of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which makes it a crime to distribute tools that can be used to circumvent copyright controls on digital products.

    Some civil liberties groups have expressed concern about the free speech implications of the government seizing websites and domain names.

    Despite the action by the Justice Department, the original site can still be reached on its numerical IP address.

    Console chipping

    ISO News had more than 100,000 registered users and was estimated to get up 140,000 hits each day
    The site did not contain illegal copies of video games, software and movies, but instead featured message boards where people could share tips about pirated material.

    But the site was also used to market modification, or mod, chips. These have been a headache for game hardware makers for years,

    Mod chips are grey-market add-ons that, once soldered to a console's main circuit board, defeat security systems and allow people to play games originally sent to different geographic markets, backup copies and bootleg discs.

    The laws over mod chips are unclear. While they are illegal in some countries, they are not in others.

    In July last year, an Australian judge ruled that mod chips sold for the original PlayStation did not infringe on Sony copyright protections.

    New tactic

    ISO News domain name was taken over as part of a plea deal with the US Justice Department. Rocci handed over the site and pleaded guilty to importing mod chips from Britain and selling them for between $45 and $60.

    David Rocci developed a public website that specifically catered to the underground piracy community," said Assistant Attorney General Michael Chertoff.

    "He attempted to profit by marketing circumvention devices to that community knowing they would be used to play pirated games.

    "He thought that there were no risks associated with his actions. He was wrong and everyone engaged in the warez [pirated software] scene should take note," said Mr Chertoff.

    Visitors to the ISO News site are now pointed to a statement about the Rocci case as well as information about illegal copyright activity.

    But the government's decision to seize the site has caused concern among some civil liberties groups.

    "It's a far-reaching and radical approach in light of previous Supreme Court decisions that emphasised the importance of the First Amendment on the internet," said David Sobel of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington.

    "Unfortunately it appears to be a new law enforcement tactic," he said. "This could be equivalent to the death penalty in the context of free speech on the internet."

    Rocci is due to be sentenced on 7 March and could receive a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a $500,000 fine.



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    So what do you think guys? Is this a dangerous precedent?
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    • #3
      The guy got his start dumpster diving, probably.
      Turn the page, he had a good run.
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      • #4
        This is a dangerous precedent. Actions like these and the Patriot Act should not go unnoticed or unprotested (while we still have the right to protest, that is.)

        "Love your Country, Fear your Government"
        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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        • #5
          the problem is the DMA, in its current form, people who use black permanent markers can be arrested because they can be used to disable copy protection on certain kinds of cds.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PLATO1003
            This is a dangerous precedent. Actions like these and the Patriot Act should not go unnoticed or unprotested (while we still have the right to protest, that is.)

            "Love your Country, Fear your Government"
            How is this a dangerous precedent?

            The website was surrendered under a plea bargain, since the website was clearly in violation of copyright law by promoting piracy and SELLING tools to aid it.

            I don't see what's a dangerous precedent...
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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            • #7
              Asher:

              The laws over mod chips are unclear. While they are illegal in some countries, they are not in others.
              and

              Some civil liberties groups have expressed concern about the free speech implications of the government seizing websites and domain names.
              and

              Unfortunately it appears to be a new law enforcement tactic," he said. "This could be equivalent to the death penalty in the context of free speech on the internet."
              The internet is international in scope. The siezing on the web site and domain name are the issue here. It is quite possible that this was not a crime in many areas that he had customers.

              I am not disputing that he broke a law or that he should have been arrested...that is not the issue here.

              Free speech rights are much larger than one mans crime.
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              • #8
                The laws over mod chips are unclear. While they are illegal in some countries, they are not in others.

                The laws CERTAINLY aren't unclear about modchips in the US, I fail to see the relevance...

                Some civil liberties groups have expressed concern about the free speech implications of the government seizing websites and domain names.
                This also is completely irrelevant -- the website wasn't seized in the sense of forced takeover, the website was GIVEN to the government was part of a plea bargain...

                The internet is international in scope.
                Hmm. Let's look at the facts here:
                1. The website was based in the US.
                2. The website was run by an American.
                3. The website was in clear violation of US law which prohibits selling device like modchips.

                I don't see why it would be relevant that someone in, say, Mexico could also purchase the mod chips from them. The criminal was American, the site was American, it was in violation of American law.

                The siezing on the web site and domain name are the issue here. It is quite possible that this was not a crime in many areas that he had customers.
                Are you reading a different article than I am?

                The man SURRENDERED the site after he PLEAD GUILTY as part of his PLEA BARGAIN.

                Dangerous precedent this is not...
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                • #9
                  Glonkie,

                  IIRC, a lot of people need mod chips not because they buy piratd games, but they have games bought from other countries that they can't play.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                    Glonkie,

                    IIRC, a lot of people need mod chips not because they buy piratd games, but they have games bought from other countries that they can't play.
                    Yeah, it's true some people use modchips to play imported games...

                    But at the same time let's be realistic. ISONews is a warez site, selling mod chips...

                    It doesn't really matter, of course, ISONews is up and running at a different address now...
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PLATO1003
                      This is a dangerous precedent. Actions like these and the Patriot Act should not go unnoticed or unprotested (while we still have the right to protest, that is.)

                      "Love your Country, Fear your Government"
                      I agree with you.

                      This is the second time in 24 hours.

                      The world has gone mad.
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                      • #12
                        Why do you agree with him?

                        How is the guy voluntarily giving up his website after pleading guilty a "dangerous precedent"?
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Comrade Tribune
                          I agree with you.
                          As if I needed more evidence that he was wrong.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asher
                            Why do you agree with him?

                            How is the guy voluntarily giving up his website after pleading guilty a "dangerous precedent"?
                            One can hardly call being coerced into giving up the website as part of a plea bargain (i.e. to avoid a harsher sentence) as being strictly voluntary. After all, if I plea bargain for a lighter jail sentence, it would be silly to say I was going to jail voluntarily.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Comrade Tribune


                              I agree with you.

                              This is the second time in 24 hours.

                              The world has gone mad.
                              Edit: But not totally mad. I overlooked the part with the plea bargain. Still, I think it´s not a good precedent.
                              Now, if I ask myself: Who profits from a War against Iraq?, the answer is: Israel. -Prof. Rudolf Burger, Austrian Academy of Arts

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