Bombs Blast Beijing

[Lefty Scaevola]

Sounds more like a turf struggle on who gets the cafeteria contract. Simlar to that bit in China some months ago where someone poisoned the confections that a rival was selling school kids.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Comrade Tribune


Israel, *as a state*, was *created* by terrorism (against both Arabs and British).

Can you spell H*Y*P*O*C*R*I*S*Y.

You advocate terrorism against Muslims in your signature. Don't accuse intelligent posters like DaShi and ixnay of hypocrisy. You can spell it, but not recognize it.

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior
You advocate terrorism against Muslims in your signature.

I don´t. The people most terrorized when Y. broke up were the Serbs. You are basing your claim on disinformation.

[RedFred]

Why is this newsworthy? I am sure each of us has felt the same way about uni cafeterias at one time or another.

[Spiffor]

I don't think we should assimilate any non-military violence (like shooting sprees in schools) with the success of Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda has a political agenda which is extremely successful, and the art of crusade done by the Bush admin helps it terrifically. Youngsters who kill like in Columbine or Erfurt just want to leave the world with a cool ending, a bit like someone who suicides with a gas explosion.

However, for political groups, it is true the success of Al Qaeda, and the media coverage it has got, makes terrorism a valuable option. Unfortunately, I don't see how to effectively fight against it, since the media coverage to the terrorists' wicked ideals will only increase if countries fight them too clearly. I guess countries must wage a shadowy battle against the shadowy enemy that is terrorism.

The whole "I send my bombers and carriers to defeat terrorism" idea is doomed to failure IMHO

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Comrade Tribune


I don´t. The people most terrorized when Y. broke up were the Serbs. You are basing your claim on disinformation.

Not like we don't know anyone who does that...

I will do some research, and get back to you in a little bit.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Comrade Tribune


I don´t. The people most terrorized when Y. broke up were the Serbs. You are basing your claim on disinformation.

Does the CIA base its claims on disinformation?

From the text of a hearing before the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe:

A recently released CIA report confirmed that Serb militants have been responsible for nearly 90 percent of the atrocities committed during Yugoslavia's violent break-up

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1995_hr/genocideinbosnia.html

[Hueij]

The people most terrorized when Y. broke up were the Serbs.

Not to jack this thread, but where are the 6000 Bosnian Muslem men from Srebenica? Mladic is so terrorised that he can't answer?

Serbs are the the victims indeed... right...

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior
Does the CIA base its claims on disinformation?

I hope you are pulling my leg, yes?

[Jaguar]

Sure. Really I know that everyone is wrong except you. They are all in a vast conspiracy to villify the Serbs.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Comrade Tribune


Israel, *as a state*, was *created* by terrorism.

...and yours wasn't? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Austria is the direct heir of the Austro-Hungarian empire, a political entity founded by the Hapsburg *monarchs*. You know what monarchs are don't you? *Military dictators with really colorful clothes and a family lineage*.

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Hueij

The people most terrorized when Y. broke up were the Serbs.

Not to jack this thread, but where are the 6000 Bosnian Muslem men from Srebenica? Mladic is so terrorised that he can't answer?

Serbs are the the victims indeed... right...

GENOCIDE WITHOUT CORPSES ... JOURNALISM WITHOUT TRUTH!

William Dorich

In the November 4th issue of Newsweek, Stacy Sullivan poses the question of how is it possible to have genocide without corpses? The answer is simple, remember it was Newsweek that broke the story about '50,000 Rapes,' that turned out to be the most successful piece of propaganda of this war. It was a lie! Tom Post, the author of the article admitted that 'the Bosnian officials concede that their estimates of 50,000 was based on a relatively small number of testimonies.'

Remember, too, it was Newsweek that carried the skeletal figure of 'a Bosnian Muslim POW' on its August 17, 1992 cover. Slobodan Konjevic, 37, was identified by his sister in Vienna as a Serb. She said in telephone interviews that 'Slobodan has suffered from Tuberculosis for 10 years' ... 'he was a common criminal before the war and he was caught looting' ... 'his skeletal figure was due to his disease not the starvation from 3 months in a Serb detention camp,' If I were Newsweek I would distance myself from this public deception, too!

In its January 4, 1993 issue, Newsweek once again resorted to lies and distortions by showing a photograph of several bodies with the accompanying caption: 'Is there any way to stop Serbian atrocities in Bosnia?' The photo was actually of Serbian victims, including one clearly recognizable man wearing a red coat. The photo, with the same man in his red coat, is identical to a scene in television footage from Vukovar a year earlier. Shame on Newsweek for their apparent lack of integrity and their arrogant silence.

Particularly offensive in this article is Ms. Sullivan's last line, 'They (the war crimes investigators) can only hope they won't be beaten by the war criminals who live there year-round.' In other words, Ms. Sullivan paints all Serbs with collective guilt, little wonder she is capable of writing such a scathing article, she, too, has no integrity, or worse, no conscience. The use of the photo of a coffin containing 'a 6 week-old Muslim baby exhumed from a mass grave,' in this article was yet another technique to further demonize the Serbs. Would Ms. Sullivan and Newsweek like the color photographs of roasted Serbian soldiers, or how about the picture of 3 year-old Ilinka Cecevac, a Serbian baby shot in the forehead at point blank range because some lunatic considered her an enemy of the state?

Deceptively, Ms. Sullivan omits any reference to, Nasir Oric, a war criminal responsible for killing over 640 Serbs in villages that surrounded Srebrenica, he is not even indicted! This Muslim criminal has created video films of his exterminations. These videos are being sold on street corners in the Arab world showing Nasir Oric decapitating and murdering innocent Serbian victims, the Muslim world's version of pornography. Oric used the "safe-haven" of Srebrenica as a military base to destroy 42 Serbian villages in the year prior to Srebrenica's fall. Nasir Oric is also the same Muslim that converted the Serbian Orthodox church in Konjic into a public toilet and the Serbian church in Srebrenica into a stable.

ICRC document 37, dated September 13, 1995, reveals that 'apx. 5,000 Srebrenica Muslims left the enclave prior to its fall and that the Muslim government has admitted that these men were reassigned to other units of its armed forces. The fact that family members were not informed of it was justified by the obligation to keep it a military secret.' Ms. Sullivan proves capable of ignoring any evidence that contradicts her own Roman Catholic bias toward the Serbs.

In the week before the Dayton Agreement negotiations began, Haris Silajdzic proved just how capable he was of pulling the wool over the eyes of the West! Silajdzic went before the CNN cameras to tell the world that his government had just discovered a mass grave containing the bodies of '520 Muslim victims.' I telephoned the international desk at CNN to inquire how it was possible to know the exact body count in a grave that had yet to be exhumed? In the subsequent telecast CNN revised the remark saying 'the mass grave is believed to contain 520 victims.' In the weeks that followed, NATO and ICRC excavated the site to discover that it contained only one body, the body that was shown in the mud during the CNN telecast of this so-called new event.

Haris Silajdzic is the same liar that used the Human Rights Conference in Vienna on June 15, 1993 to announce that '200,000 Bosnian Muslims have been killed in this war.' A lie of hideous proportion that was used by the media for the ensuing three years. In January of 1993, Associated Press and UPI accounted for '17,000 victims on all sides.' In other words, in a five month period from January to June, Silajdzic convinced the world that 183,000 Muslims had been killed, a figure that represented more than 36,000 victims per month in 42 months of war. Nor a single document anywhere in the world by any humanitarian or government agency has been able to account for more than 60,000 victims in this war. Yes, Ms. Sullivan this is genocide without corpses and you and your ilk at Newsweek are in the kind of truth squads reminiscent of Communist regimes that we despised.

Praising David Rohde for receiving a Pulitzer prize for discovering the mass graves of Srebrenica is praising an arrogant fraud. This is the same David Rohde that proved what a successful forger he was in falsifying the documents that gave him access to Serbian territory. This is the same David Rohde that convinced the American public that the Serbs stupidly left 'arms and legs protruding from the mass grave.' But, Rohde has no explanation why wild animals, birds and insects did not devour the rotting flesh of those arms and legs from July to October when he made this miraculous discovery.

Self-serving journalists have been handsomely paid for their deception. Public relations firms were hired to promote propaganda. Front page exposure titillated the American public with stories based on hearsay and double hearsay and outright fabrication, an indication of the depth to which the major media will stoop to make a buck. More than 50 Million dollars has been paid to public relations goons by Croats and Muslims in an arrogant attempt to manipulate U.S. foreign policy through the use of phony rape stories, faked photographs of Dubrovnik burning and death figures grossly exaggerated in order to claim genocide so that the United States can find reason to become involved in a civil war. Ten times as many people have died and are dying in Rwanda and the lack of concern by the American government is shocking. Why? Because these 800,000 victims are black?

I remember, too, that another Pulitzer winner, John Burns of the New York Times, did a story in the winter of 1993 in which he wrote about 12 people freezing to death in a Sarajevo nursing home. He gave gruesome details of the victims as they were placed on a flat bed truck and he even accompanied them to their burial, and still, John Burns omitted from his story the fact that all 12 victims were Serbs, buried in the Serbian Orthodox cemetery in Sarajevo. This is the same moronic journalist who totally ignored Serbian Victimology during this war while stooping to write a story about how the dogs were managing to survive in Sarajevo. In the week that Burns wrote that hideous dog story, 8 Serbian babies died from a simple lack of antibiotics, 16 elderly Serbs died of diabetes because of a lack of medication and 4 elderly Serbs committed suicide rather than starve to death.

Goebbels said: 'Tell a lie a hundred times, it becomes the truth.' Genocide without corpses is only possible when journalists like Stacy Sullivan practice omission journalism, or worse, yellow journalism!

[Sava]

I didn't realize September 11 was tolerated and condoned by the US....

Dashi... 0.00000000001/10 troll

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
...and yours wasn't? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Austria is the direct heir of the Austro-Hungarian empire, a political entity founded by the Hapsburg *monarchs*. You know what monarchs are don't you? *Military dictators with really colorful clothes and a family lineage*.

Equating war with terrorism, you are on dangerous ground, given the wars started by Israel and/or the United States.

And, no, Mr. Know-it-all, most of the Austrian Empire was *inherited*, not conquered, precisely the family-lineage thing.

There was even a proverb about that:
Bella gerant alii, tu, felix Austria, nube!
(Others may go to war, you Austrians simply marry)

[Jaguar]

1. I have not accused all Serbs of genocide. Only Milosevic, who was indicted for genocide by the UN. If the UN is wrong, Newsweek is wrong, and the CIA is wrong, then forgive me.

2. I agree. Bosnian Serbs were attacked too. But both Serbs and Muslims were attacked by the same aggressor - Milosevic.

3. Link please.

4. This is a major threadjack.