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    Bomb Blasts Wound 9 at 2 Beijing Universities
    By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL


    EIJING, Feb. 25 — Explosions apparently caused by homemade bombs ripped through cafeterias at two of China's most prominent universities around lunchtime today, Chinese officials and students said. At least nine people were wounded.

    There were no immediate claims of responsibility for the blasts at Qinghua and Beijing Universities and the motive was unclear, although the police were not calling it terrorism.

    The first blast, at about 11:40 a.m., took place in a new upscale restaurant favored by faculty members at Qinghua University. The second, less than two hours later, was strong enough to blow out panels of glass at the Nongyuan cafeteria at Beijing University.

    The police said the blasts appeared to have been caused by bombs made with dynamite. Students said the smell of gunpowder hung in the air. Within hours, the buildings housing the two cafeterias were cordoned off, and the immediate areas were patrolled by the police and members of China's State Security forces.

    But elsewhere on the two bustling campuses, it was business as usual on a foggy late winter's day, with students heading to classes, dinners and films; and although some students expressed alarm that such violence could intrude on this usually quiet setting, most took the news in stride.

    "I heard the explosion, and it was a bit scary at first, but that passed very quickly since at first everyone thought it was just an accident," said a Beijing University undergraduate in jeans and a black down jacket who identified himself only by his surname, Tao.

    "If this was America, by now I bet they would have evacuated the campus," he said. "But that's not happening here."

    Most of the wounded were university workers and none were students. Tonight, the electronic bulletin board for Beijing University, normally a hotbed of student gossip, contained only official notices about the incident as well as a request for witnesses to come forward — suggesting that student comments were being censored.

    Most students on the campus said they felt that the blasts were probably related to personal grudges or revenge. "Why would a terrorist set off little explosions at two university cafeterias?" asked Jian Qi, a graduate student at Beijing University.

    In a country where lawsuits and the court system are unreliable venues for those seeking justice, disgruntled citizens often solve disputes themselves. Guns are illegal, but small homemade bombs have been used as weapons because explosives are inexpensive and easy to buy.

    The police in Beijing were already on heightened alert because China's yearly Parliament, the National People's Congress, meets next week. The meeting this year is particularly important because it will be the backdrop for a leadership change, a rare event in China, with the current president, Jiang Zemin, retiring.

    Still, security on the two campuses was surprisingly light tonight. For many years after the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989, all visitors to Beijing University were screened by police guards at the gates, because many of the student organizers were affiliated with the university.

    But that practice has recently waned, and tonight there was no attempt to check identification papers or parcels carried onto the campus.
    The problem with terrorist groups like Al Qaeda or Hamas isn't just the fear of sects popping up around the world, but the promotion of the idea that this type of behavior is effective. Whether it be for personal grudges or political statements, the world's acceptance or tolerance for such behavior makes it seem more appropriate whether the motivations behind it are understandable or not. The attitude that terrorism only occurs in/at America or Isreal is naive, and by condoning, even a little, you may open the door for your enemies or future enemies to "fight for righteousness by any means necessary."
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

  • #2
    So there's a world wide tolerance and acceptance for acts of terror, even in China where it's illegal to fart in the wrong direction? I think not.

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    • #3
      Ah, you missed the point. Therefore I shall ignore you. Sorry.
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • #4
        Re: Bombs Blast Beijing

        Originally posted by DaShi, edited by Comrade Tribune
        The problem with terrorist states like USA or Israel isn't just the fear of them popping up around the world, but the promotion of the idea that this type of behavior is effective. Whether it be for personal grudges or political statements, the world's acceptance or tolerance for such behavior makes it seem more appropriate whether the motivations behind it are understandable or not. The attitude that terrorism only occurs in/by America or Isreal is naive, and by condoning, even a little, you may open the door for your enemies or future enemies to "fight for righteousness by any means necessary."
        Now, if I ask myself: Who profits from a War against Iraq?, the answer is: Israel. -Prof. Rudolf Burger, Austrian Academy of Arts

        Free Slobo, lock up George, learn from Kim-Jong-Il.

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        • #5
          You're so clever.

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          • #6
            To CT:
            Sigh. Not even worth the insult. But here's some sarcasm: Very original and thought provoking.

            But you do help prove my point somewhat, so thanks.
            “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
            "Capitalism ho!"

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            • #7
              So there's actually a point?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ixnay
                You're so clever.
                I know.
                Now, if I ask myself: Who profits from a War against Iraq?, the answer is: Israel. -Prof. Rudolf Burger, Austrian Academy of Arts

                Free Slobo, lock up George, learn from Kim-Jong-Il.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kropotkin
                  So there's actually a point?
                  Yes, but for some reason you couldn't read it.
                  “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                  "Capitalism ho!"

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                  • #10
                    Yay! I'm right!
                    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                    "Capitalism ho!"

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                    • #11
                      Well, I understood what you meant Dashi, and I agree. It isn't just USAmericans who think "It can't happen here" when bad people do bad things to a lot of other people. 9/11 changed the American public's mind on that subject, but in the year and a half since, I've gotten the distinct impression that many others around the world still aren't thinking "If it can happen in the United States of all places, maybe it CAN happen here..."
                      The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                      The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DaShi
                        Yay! I'm right!
                        You think.
                        Now, if I ask myself: Who profits from a War against Iraq?, the answer is: Israel. -Prof. Rudolf Burger, Austrian Academy of Arts

                        Free Slobo, lock up George, learn from Kim-Jong-Il.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DRoseDARs
                          Well, I understood what you meant Dashi, and I agree. It isn't just USAmericans who think "It can't happen here" when bad people do bad things to a lot of other people. 9/11 changed the American public's mind on that subject, but in the year and a half since, I've gotten the distinct impression that many others around the world still aren't thinking "If it can happen in the United States of all places, maybe it CAN happen here..."
                          Pretty much. I'm more concerned for violence all around. These kind of incidents are far too common in China, in much of the world actually. People who lose their jobs often feel cheated or powerless, and resort to violence. There was the case of the man who stabbed his boss because he didn't get the raise he was promised. Similar in America is the school shootings, kids who feel abused or mistreated by their peers take out their frustrations violently. During the height of the Isreali suicide bombings I was shocked to see that so much of the world focused more on how justified the bombings were in response to real or percieved Isreali aggression than on how atrocious the acts themself were. Or at the number of people who suddenly felt that America deserved 9/11 after Bush really began to talk about Iraq.

                          The point isn't America and Isreal are innocents, it is about terrorism and violence plain and simple. The others just show how their personal biases distract them from core issues.
                          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                          "Capitalism ho!"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DaShi
                            The point isn't America and Isreal are innocents, it is about terrorism and violence plain and simple.
                            Israel, *as a state*, was *created* by terrorism (against both Arabs and British).

                            Can you spell H*Y*P*O*C*R*I*S*Y.
                            Now, if I ask myself: Who profits from a War against Iraq?, the answer is: Israel. -Prof. Rudolf Burger, Austrian Academy of Arts

                            Free Slobo, lock up George, learn from Kim-Jong-Il.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Comrade Tribune


                              Israel, *as a state*, was *created* by terrorism (against both Arabs and British).

                              Can you spell H*Y*P*O*C*R*I*S*Y.
                              Yeah, whatever.
                              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                              "Capitalism ho!"

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