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Originally posted by Ramo
Are you saying that advocating criminal acts shouldn't be legally protected speech?
Are you saying that advocating criminal acts shouldn't be legally protected speech?
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Yes.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Those were nice juicy morsels of quotes, but those don't seem to show a true solicitation of murder. I doubt he would be convicted by jury in the US, even if it were against the law.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Actually, since capital punishment is legally-sanctioned murder, killing Saddam would be murder.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
So Poly posters that say we should kill Saddam are guilty of 'soliciting murder'?
Now, if we killed him because resistance has made capture and imprisonment impossible, I can see that being justified.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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Originally posted by Frogger
Yes.
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Which Yes?
Saddam or speech becoming illegal by its advocacy of illegal acts?12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Those were nice juicy morsels of quotes, but those don't seem to show a true solicitation of murder. I doubt he would be convicted by jury in the US, even if it were against the law.
"So you go to India and if you see a Hindu walking down the road you are allowed to kill him and take his money, is that clear?"
I'm not sure who has jurisdiction here (UK or India), but this quote seems to solicit murder (unless it is taken out of context)...12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Killing it is the new killing it
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Originally posted by Frogger
speech becoming illegal by its advocacy of illegal acts?Comment
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I don't see the problem with this.
AFAIK even "soliciting mischief" is a crime around here...12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Everyone should have the right to speak whatever they want. Even if it is violence and hate.Originally posted by Frogger
I don't see the problem with this.Comment
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Hate yes, violence no.
That's why conspiracy to commit murder is a crime, even if the murder is never actually attempted.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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When its directed at one certain person, I'll agree with you. If its directed at a group of people (blacks, russians, etc) then I disagree with you.Originally posted by Frogger
Hate yes, violence no.
That's why conspiracy to commit murder is a crime, even if the murder is never actually attempted.Comment
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Why? If I offer to give you 5000$ to kill a random black person is it any less a crime than offering 5000$ to kill a particular black person?12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
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since capital punishment is legally-sanctioned murder
No it isn't. Murder is unlawful killing. Capital punishment being lawful, by nature, cannot be murder.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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I read a book about this mercenary in near Bosnia who dipped his bullets in pigs grease, so every mujahedin fighter he shot wouldn't get to paradise.In da butt.
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But thats not speech (well it is.....you know what I mean). If I say "Death to the Blacks!" I should not be arrested. If I try to kill a black, then yeah I should be arrested.Originally posted by Frogger
Why? If I offer to give you 5000$ to kill a random black person is it any less a crime than offering 5000$ to kill a particular black person?Comment
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