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  • This Guy should spend big time in prison

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    I hope they make him eat pork
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  • #2
    One tape, Jihad, contained the words: "So you go to India and if you see a Hindu walking down the road you are allowed to kill him and take his money, is that clear?"


    Good riddance to bad rubbish
    John Brown did nothing wrong.

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    • #3
      Where is the line between freedom of speech and, uh, "soliciting murder?"
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      • #4
        about here:

        One tape, Jihad, contained the words: "So you go to India and if you see a Hindu walking down the road you are allowed to kill him and take his money, is that clear?"

        He also said it is permissible to use chemical weapons to kill unbelievers.

        In a tape called Rules of Jihad, thought to have been made before September 11 Al-Faisal told his audience: "You have to learn how to shoot. You have to learn how to fly planes, drive tanks and you have to learn how to load your guns and to use missiles."
        lets hope he goes down for a very long time
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        • #5
          Good, and they should feed that Abu Hamza to a ticking crocodile
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Urban Ranger
            Where is the line between freedom of speech and, uh, "soliciting murder?"
            Easy.

            "Soliciting murder" is when you tell people it's okay to commit murder. Free speech is when you tell people anything except that committing crimes is okay.
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
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            • #7
              "Soliciting murder" is when you tell people it's okay to commit murder.


              So Poly posters that say we should kill Saddam are guilty of 'soliciting murder'?
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Frogger


                Easy.

                "Soliciting murder" is when you tell people it's okay to commit murder. Free speech is when you tell people anything except that committing crimes is okay.
                I wonder if the same is true in the U.S. AFAIK, it is illegal to encourage people to commit a specific crime (i.e., "Kill John Smith!"), but I don't know if it is illegal to encourage non-specific acts (i.e. "Kill Whitey!").
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                • #9
                  Yes. Good luck trying to get anybody to prosecute.
                  12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                  Stadtluft Macht Frei
                  Killing it is the new killing it
                  Ultima Ratio Regum

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                  • #10
                    I wonder if the same is true in the U.S. AFAIK, it is illegal to encourage people to commit a specific crime (i.e., "Kill John Smith!"), but I don't know if it is illegal to encourage non-specific acts (i.e. "Kill Whitey!").


                    It certainly is here.

                    We also go too far, IMO and ban all speech that promotes hatred based on race, sex, etc.
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                      "Soliciting murder" is when you tell people it's okay to commit murder.


                      So Poly posters that say we should kill Saddam are guilty of 'soliciting murder'?
                      I'd rather see Saddam taken care of by his own people. And I'd rather see him put on trial for crimes against humanity. That would end his "martyrdom" real quick. He and Noriega can be cellmates.
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                      • #12
                        Boris, I agree that in the US, this guy would be allowed to say what he is saying because it is a non-specific crime he is advocating.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #13
                          Then he should move to America. The Land of the Free Great Satan.
                          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                          • #14
                            "Soliciting murder" is when you tell people it's okay to commit murder. Free speech is when you tell people anything except that committing crimes is okay.
                            Are you saying that advocating criminal acts shouldn't be legally protected speech?
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                            • #15
                              Not to say that all speech advocating criminal acts should be legally protected, but this shouldn't automatically make speech non-protected.
                              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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