Who Are the Real Heroes?

[David Floyd]

So, who are the real heroes? Those who fight wars, or those who refuse to fight?

[David Floyd]

My vote is obvious (those who refuse, naturally).

[Az]

One cannot decide who's a hero, by that division. There are heroes, and scumbags, on both sides.

[MichaeltheGreat]

It also depends on the nature and causes of the war.

[David Floyd]

I would think that any motivation for refusing to fight (whether morality, cowardice, or other) is better than choosing to fight.

[David Floyd]

It also depends on the nature and causes of the war.

If someone's trying to make you fight, I don't think that the nature of the war is relevant.

[Az]

I would think that any motivation for refusing to fight (whether morality, cowardice, or other) is better than choosing to fight.

That's because your ethics are based on incomprehensible, and incorrect arguments.

[David Floyd]

You haven't proved them wrong or presented good counterarguments yet.

[loinburger]

This is an ill-posed question, but I chose the first option in order to be contrary.

[Az]

You haven't proved them wrong or presented good counterarguments yet.

Well, basically, your ethics are based on these "rights", which are sucked from vaccum.

It's like in that communist/capitalist thread, when you said that you don't care about all those people dying in africa.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by David Floyd
I would think that any motivation for refusing to fight (whether morality, cowardice, or other) is better than choosing to fight.

So if the ****ing Nazi's are about to grease your entire family, being a self-serving yellow bastard is better than resisting forcefully?

BTW, didn't you used to advocate assassinating government officials for things like taxation and other acts affecting "property rights."

And it wasn't too long ago that you suggested people should resist the police any time they thought they had a good reason to.

[Az]

Seriously, though, I never have seen the basis of libertarian ethics. Something clearcut, simple, etc.

[General Ludd]

If by "refuse to fight" you mean resist a draft, then that gets my vote. If you just broadly mean people who fight and people who don't, then neither.

[Boris Godunov]

Gandhi was a hero, and he chose not to fight.

Mordecai Anielewicz was a hero, and he chose to fight.

So stop the generalizations.

[Urban Ranger]

Depends on whether doing so is just or unjust.