If possible, would terraforming Mars be ethical?

[SlowwHand]

I make a motion nominating the idea of transforming another planet, as the "Apolyton Goofy Idea Of The Year Award".

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by Osweld


So you agree that we are "flawed" and not behaving naturaly. That is what I was saying, nothing more.

Yes but the word naturally doesn't have self importance for me. Nature is cruel, and the beaver is a selfish bastard like we are, maybe even more.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by tinyp3nis the beaver is a selfish bastard like we are, maybe even more.

Don't let Ward see you postin' that

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Sure, go ahead. But pray tell me this: How in god's name are you going to "create" carbon dioxide? There may be oxides in the soil, but I think that there is a deficit of carbon on Mars. This means that you're going to have to import carbon to Mars. Do we have that much to spare?
Has anyone given much thought as to whether mars is really able to hold a sufficient atmosphere? It is after all smaller than earth and has less gravity. How much carbon dioxide will it take to raise the atmospheric temperature to a habitable level? There is such a thing as too much carbon dioxide. If the level is too high your system can't efficiently excrete carbon dioxide from the lungs, which screws up your blood pH and reduces oxygen intake.

How about a artifical meteor shower from the asteriod
belt?

[DanS]

The day we can terraform a planet is the day we'll
understand how one works. Don't hold yer breath
on that one.

This is a good point. We would probably screw up the terraforming of Mars.

[GePap]

lets terraform Mars. Bacteria can't sue.

As for what we do on Mars: could we not find artifical ways of pumping the atmosphere with CO2? we can find Carbon there, and H2O, so how much expertise do we need to make CO2? Obviosuly hugeely expensive, but there would probably be even bigger challenges ahead.

The one thing we must be prepared for: really tall people: But terrans will, with their High G ways, always rule the solar system!

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Ozz


How about a artifical meteor shower from the asteriod
belt?

What would that accomplish? Are asteroids chock-a-block rich in carbon dioxide, or are we just venting our frustration that the only other planet in our solar system that we ever had a hope of settling turns out to be unfixable?

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by Ozz


Aren't you guys up to your eyeballs in moose, cause you
killed off ALL the wolves? And then finland was planning
on getting rid of the moose as a traffic hazard and
"damaging to the forest"

The day we can terraform a planet is the day we'll
understand how one works. Don't hold yer breath
on that one.

If your trying to convince me that we are not doing something wrong here, you fail.
Seems like our nature is doing fine without the wolves. Wolf is top of the chaing, providing nothing more than poop. Now some apolytoner will say "So wan't to kill all the humans too?" because he thinks he is being funny and original, but no I'd like to live thank you very much. There are however people who think all humans should die, because the planet will be better of.
I think we will never be able to terraform a planet, but IF we will then we should.

[tinyp3nis]

Aren't there too much carbon on our planet? Somewhere on the soil? On some form, I can't even remember which. With todays methods it will be impossible to mine it and transport too, but in theory aren't there plenty?

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
What would that accomplish? Are asteroids chock-a-block rich in carbon dioxide, or are we just venting our frustration that the only other planet in our solar system that we ever had a hope of settling turns out to be unfixable?

Chock full of ice and rocks, and they'll warm things up
on impact. Their is enough out there to build a small planet. We could make Mars bigger.

I not an expert but i believe they are also carbon rich.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by tinyp3nis
Seems like our nature is doing fine without the wolves. Wolf is top of the chaing, providing nothing more than poop.

Population and diease control of the Moose population.

Finns are top of the chain.

There is a lot of carbon stored in the earths soil, we
use it as fuel.

[tinyp3nis]

Nono, I don't mean fuel, It was something CO4 or something, not CO2 of course but something else. Hard to explaing when I can't even remember what the stuff was called in finnish language.

[Ozz]

Heat limestone, you get CO2

[Ramo]

There aren't any froms of sentient life on Mars, so as Boris said, ethics aren't relevant.

[monolith94]

" This means that you're going to have to import carbon to Mars. Do we have that much to spare? "

Ok - on the count of three, we all breathe heavily in the direction of Mars!!!