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**SlowwHand** · February 16, 2003, 19:20

This isn't Bush, DM. You sounding like Floyd now.

**Demerzel** · February 16, 2003, 19:24

World War I was during the era when European countries believed war was something that could be waged quickly and was a useful tool of diplmacy ( kinda like Bush now

), 1871 Franco-Prussian war was a good example of this. WWI proved this not to be the case anymore.

World War II was started by a madman bent on conquest, no logic can define his actions.

Europe has changed markedly since those days and I somehow doubt that Germany would instantly try to conquer other EU countries if the US pulled out. The US forces in Europe may have prevented a Soviet attack but then again the Soviets were always worried that the US would attack them first, so it's a tie

Can't see the US personnel leaving the UK with just under half of the 99 year leases of bases left to go. Would leave the US isolated indeed if they pulled out of all western Europe.

**SlowwHand** · February 16, 2003, 20:12

UK isn't wouldn't be under consideration.
The UK is there beside us.

**KrazyHorse** · February 16, 2003, 20:18

Originally posted by Lancer
Who traditionally invades european countries? Who invaded South Korea in the past?

The US?

**Comrade Tribune** · February 16, 2003, 21:26

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Of course US comes in again and pacifies the situation.

US *created* the situation by arming criminal Albanian warlords.

**Ted Striker** · February 16, 2003, 21:40

Ya, I guess those mercenaries Slobo hired to exterminate the other side had nothing to do with the situation.

"Hey, not our fault those mercenaries got out of hand." How convenient. Free Slobo!

Of course, the default answer of blaming the US is usally the easiest one.

**SlowwHand** · February 16, 2003, 21:48

Always.

**Comrade Tribune** · February 16, 2003, 21:50

The only mercenaries in Kosovo were retired US generals training the gangsters.

Very hard not to blame the US for this.

**devilmunchkin** · February 16, 2003, 23:29

sloww: if it's not bush, who is it? or is it him and other ppl? i'm just trying to understand......

**Zero** · February 16, 2003, 23:40

Re: Proposal. Remove U.S. Military Members.

WTf? it went from page 1 to page 5...

**HershOstropoler** · February 17, 2003, 04:55

Dino:

But if the power structures that are now in place in Europe and Northeast Asia are benign, they are not sustainable for much longer. The most likely scenario in Europe is an eventual American exit coupled with the emergence of Germany as the dominant state. In effect, the region will probably move from its present bipolarity (with the United States and Russia as the poles) to unbalanced multipolarity, which will lead to more intense security competition among the European powers.

Is there some sort of competition in america's "academia" who can sprout the most nonsense? I'd say this is a nice one, but still miles from the "monetary union creates all out european war".

The intellectual level of most of those IR pieces is on par with creationism. At best.

**Lancer** · February 17, 2003, 05:07

Unemployment in Germany has recently exceeded 10%. Have the extremist parties gained any popularity by chance?

**KrazyHorse** · February 17, 2003, 05:12

Is that high for a Euro country? In 1993 or so our unemployment rate was running at 9-10%...

**KrazyHorse** · February 17, 2003, 05:13

Spain's was 23% the last time I checked (a few years ago). Apparently they've brought that down a bit recently, however...

**Tattila the Hun** · February 17, 2003, 05:15

There are about 50 million reasons supporting continued peace in Europe... Even without US troops

Can somebody tell me, what is the "School of America's"?

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