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This is a copy cat thread and of course Saddam should be removed. History is repeating itself and now we have a chance to right the wrong the appeasers did in the 1930s.
Unfortunately, the appeasers are still with us and they will continue to lie to themselves and say we shouldn't worry about Saddam's WoMD.
1. Human cost
2. Chemical/biological = pathetic
3. Appeasement of Bush = even more wars
4. Oil motives
5. Terrorism link = laughable
6. ME instability
7. Democracy in Iraq? Unknown
8. Glorification of war + weaponry
9. DU shells poison land
10. Economic damage worldwide
I am still not locked on an aswer, actually. But I am thinking that this war is neccesary. The status quo must not go on. we do have iraqis suffering, because of the sanctions and mainly because resources aquired go into the wrong hands. Remove the sanctions completly, and you'll have another ME war on your hands in 5-10 years, guaranteed. And this time, Saddam Hussein will have much more deadly weaponary, as well as conventional munitions. So, we have to end his reign. Now, opposition is as thin as possible, so as little as possible casualties would be suffered, from both sides.
I have two cons, that nible through me, and are strongly related to each other:
- Does the US have a solid plan for Iraq after the war?
- Is that plan going to be good for the various people of Iraq?
Originally posted by Sava
Comparisons of Saddam to 1930's Germany are false and stupid.
Are you insane? There are countless parallels........despot, abuses his own people, trying to re-cover after a previous embarassing defeat, trying to stall his enemies, hates Jews.....the list goes on.
Is war on iraq necessary ... NO.
Is this thread necessary ... NO ... Tassadar made a perfectly good thread last week.
Will I vote ... NO ... there is no country even near mine in that list .
As for comparing Saddam to 1930's Germany ... there are less paralells there than between Bush and 1930's germany.
Originally posted by Sava
Comparisons of Saddam to 1930's Germany are false and stupid.
No they aren't. They both show a brutal dictator who commites on a series of rampages and violations, but, which appeasers want to simply ignore. Ignoring the problem will only make it worse in the long run.
History has taught us this; now are we wise enough to listen?
Edit: Never use the Internet when drunk. It just gets absurd.
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So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!
Last edited by Chemical Ollie; February 16, 2003, 16:08.
So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!
Last edited by Chemical Ollie; February 16, 2003, 16:11.
So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!
Last edited by Chemical Ollie; February 16, 2003, 16:05.
So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
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