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If it wasn't for Adam Smith we would be making all our own pins"An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilisations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop" - ExcessionComment
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A better system is a mixture of both...To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Surely Adam Smith was a free-marketeer, not a capitalist"An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilisations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop" - ExcessionComment
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I'd say Marx was the more brilliant. Both were smart guys.http://monkspider.blogspot.com/Comment
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I think people are voting on who they think is more important to economics. The poll is for which system, using only the policies of each economist, would win in a war.Originally posted by Myrddin
If it wasn't for Adam Smith we would be making all our own pins
Oh well, like it was just said in another thread. If there was a poll for most progressive president in US history, and Reagan was a choice, he would win. These polls are so damn stupid."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Good thread. Adam Smith vs. Karl Marx is so rarely debated around here.
"We are living in the future, I'll tell you how I know, I read it in the paper, Fifteen years ago" - John PrineComment
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Do we have Carl Marx posting here
Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"Comment
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In a war, Capitalism would win. The free workers will be able to Inovate and work arm in arm to bring solutions to the war effort. The communist style of no inovation will mean that their quality will not be up to par and they will not be able to quickly adjust things."Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito MussoliniComment
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Both equally suck in economy, because they are so similar. Both believe a perfect order of society can be achieved without any central power. The invisible hand is part of Marx' utopia (even if it's not expressed with these words), so both utopias are laughable.
OTOH, Marx was a sociologist, an historian, a philosopher, a political activist... Clearly much more brilliant than the Scottish morals teacher."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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No, it isn't. How can you have an invisible hand without private ownership? Who is going to trade?Originally posted by Spiffor
The invisible hand is part of Marx' utopia"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Huh?Originally posted by Myrddin
Surely Adam Smith was a free-marketeer, not a capitalist"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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I meant the distribution of wealth in Marx' utopia (wealth continues to be produced) will find an optimum by itself, without any power controlling this distribution, just like the capitalist utopia of Smith."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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Spiffor,
Ok, yeah that was always wierd to me.
I don't think we should consider a utopia though, because these nations are suppose to be at war. How could you go to war without a government?"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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I thought this utopia was the final stage of human history, when all wars have been waged, the global revolution succeeded, and the war between classes becomes pointless because there are no classes anymore (the only goal of Socialism is to reach this ultimate stage, which is the true marxist Communism AFAIK). So, communist societies aren't at war, because there will be no more structurated fights once Communism is reached."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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