Fair Taxation

[DuncanK]

You keep calling us theives. Why should we wade through all that nonsense?

[Odin]

Why give out evidince when you would just ignore things you don't agree with anyway.

You libertarians have really been corrupted by capitalist propaganda.

BTW: we need a troll smiley.

[David Floyd]

You keep calling us theives. Why should we wade through all that nonsense?

If someone called me a thief, I'd tell them they were wrong and make them look silly.

Odin,

Why give out evidince when you would just ignore things you don't agree with anyway.

That's a funny statement, directed towards the one using argument, logic, and the like, coming from someone who is not responding to those arguments. Speaking of ignoring?

[DuncanK]

What's the question?

[David Floyd]

Well, WRT Odin, my first post on this page (second from top) addressed his paragraph. He has yet to respond to that, so, then, the "question" is my rebuttal of his points.

[DuncanK]

Well David why should people be compensated so much for skills. In most cases anyone can be trained and gain the neccessary experience to do those things. It's just that they may have to work extra jobs to provide for their family.

[David Floyd]

Well David why should people be compensated so much for skills.

Obviously because those skills are in demand, and a limited number of people can do them. Not only that, but only a limited number of people are willing to go to school long enough and study enough to do them.

[DuncanK]

How does demand establish what is fair? In your second sentence replace 'willing' with 'able.' And just going to school doesn't guarantee getting paid $300,000 per year.

[David Floyd]

How does demand establish what is fair?

That isn't the only element. Ability and willingness to work hard play into that a lot.

In your second sentence replace 'willing' with 'able.'

I don't see your point.

And just going to school doesn't guarantee getting paid $300,000 per year.

Depends on what you study.

[DuncanK]

Originally posted by David Floyd
That isn't the only element. Ability and willingness to work hard play into that a lot.

Are you with me that demand should not determine compensation?

Originally posted by David Floyd
I don't see your point.

You can be willing but not able. It requires both.

Originally posted by David Floyd
Depends on what you study.

It also depends on who your daddy is.

[David Floyd]

Are you with me that demand should not determine compensation?

Not at all. Demand should be one of the only factors that determines compensation.

You can be willing but not able. It requires both.

Yes, but I don't see the problem with this. If someone wants to go to Harvard, but tanks on his SAT, then I don't feel sorry for him. Harvard can't let in every schmuck who applies, and if this guy isn't smart enough, he can apply to a state university.

It also depends on who your daddy is.

Not really. If you go into politics, maybe, but if you go to a good tech school, bust your ass in CS or something related, study hard and graduate with honors, then I can virtually guarantee you'll be making six figures in the near future. If you study law or medicine, you have the potential to make MUCH more. It all depends on how bad you want it - and, of course, who badly people want you and your chosen profession.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Ever hear of the anti-trust laws?

Didnt exist back then.

[Berzerker]

Odin -

Yep, give us some more reactionary, libertarian (=capitalist greedy pig) BS. My family lives on US$30,000 per year, do you call that living comfortably.

Assuming someone here claimed your parents are living comfortably, depends on where they live. That amount in NYC is nothing, but here in rural Kansas it's not that bad. Of course, government is taking probably ~ %40, so they'd have alot more without having to pay for all those left wing programs you guys like. But leave it to a socialist to tax the hell out of their own parents only to complain about their living conditions...

We barely make ends meet working our buts off while a corperate bigwig just talks his mouth off to investors and makes $300,000 per year.

You work? If those investors/stockholders want to pay some guy alot of money to manage their investment, why is that your concern? If they paid the guy $30,000 a year, they'd get some guy who doesn't know how to run a corporation.

If all the wealth was distributed equally I bet we would all get $70,000 dollars per year.

I bet you'd get shot trying to "distribute" other people's money if you weren't hiding behind government. But how many people making $70,000 a year employ other people?

Don't say that if you want that much income go to college, not everybody has that brainpower.

Obviously, socialists are proof of that, yet they seem to have made college their homes. That's why some jobs don't pay much, because they don't require special talents.

If you give a person less money just because he is not as smart as the guy from Harvard, that is discrimination my friends.

And you don't discriminate? Tell us, when you buy music, do you buy music you don't like too so you won't be discriminating against less talented artists? Hey, my kid has coloring books, will you buy them in addition to scholarly works just so you won't be discriminatory? Sheesh!

[Berzerker]

LoA -

Didnt exist back then.

Yes they did, they were enacted around 1890-1900 and the Depression came about 30 years later.

Duncan - Hey, let's just re-define terms to mean whatever we want, since you think libertarians are thieves becuse we don't support your desire to steal, why not accuse the people who freed slaves of practicing slavery? Cool, Europeans didn't steal the Americas from Indians, they just took back what the Indians stole from them.

You keep calling us theives. Why should we wade through all that nonsense?

You keep calling us selfish for not wanting to steal, why should we wade through all that nonsense?

[DuncanK]

Poppycock