Fair Taxation

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Btw, this thread is just more proof that liberals hate treating people equally under the law.

I am stunned that a Libertarian is talking about equality. What did you do to the real Berzerker?

[Goingonit]

As loinburger said, you can crudely implement progressive consumption tax through luxury tax. But why would you want to? That would just be encouraging investment over consumption.

[Berzerker]

One more point, I found it interesting how NE liberals tried to get a regional exemption from the luxury tax increase passed under Clinton and the Democrats. Their rationale? The luxury tax was killing the boat/yacht building business in their area and rich people were buying boats abroad to avoid the tax. Screw the rich and you screw the little guy too. There's that "trickle down" theory in action...

[DuncanK]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Btw, this thread is just more proof that liberals hate treating people equally under the law.

Oh my God. How the hell do you get that? What do you think their main objective is?

[Goingonit]

Treating people inequally based on how much they earn . Equality means the same treatment regardless of all factors - including income. In this case, inequal treatment results in societal good, but it's still inequal.

[KrazyHorse]

The government intervenes unequally in favour of the rich in enforcing classical property laws, so they should damn well pay more.

[Berzerker]

Frogger -

No, it's just more proof that classical libertarians try to disguise their marked preference for the upper echelons of society with talk of fairness.

Where did I mention "fairness"? That's a leftist term used to treat people differently under the law.

UR -

I am stunned that a Libertarian is talking about equality. What did you do to the real Berzerker?

You don't listen much to libertarians then. I believe if you are going to have an income tax, then it should be applied to everyone equally, not "progressively" which is another BS term for treating people unequally.

[KrazyHorse]

Or just give up enforcing property law at all...



I give the current economic system 1 week if that happened.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Frogger -

Where did I mention "fairness"? That's a leftist term used to treat people differently under the law.

replace with "equality" then.

[Goingonit]

capitalism...
meat masslootingalism.

[KrazyHorse]

Don't worry; we'd have the soviets up and running in short order.

Or maybe they'd shoot me as a sputnik.

[DuncanK]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Frogger -

Where did I mention "fairness"? That's a leftist term used to treat people differently under the law.

The law treats people differently regardless of the Left. That's why we want fairness.

Originally posted by Berzerker
UR -

You don't listen much to libertarians then. I believe if you are going to have an income tax, then it should be applied to everyone equally, not "progressively" which is another BS term for treating people unequally.

Christ, not again with the terms. What is the problem with the terms?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Berzerker
You don't listen much to libertarians then. I believe if you are going to have an income tax, then it should be applied to everyone equally, not "progressively" which is another BS term for treating people unequally.

Your form of "equality" is not real equality at all, because the lower income groups have a much less disposable income than the rich.

[Ramo]

Forcing the poor to pay for the government is much less fair than forcing the rich to pay for the government as the poor have less of a capacity to spend money on the government than the rich. Therefore, regressive taxes are invariably a much greater assault on liberty than progressive taxes.

[Dinner]

Communism...
Shared misery and deprivation.