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  • #16
    Originally posted by Oerdin
    The newspapers give a pretty good account. Admitably it's only the major events and we don't know what every man on every street corner is thinking but still you should be able to get a feel for the mode.
    Which newspapers? US ones or Venezuelan ones?
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    • #17
      I imagine both.
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      • #18
        Imagine? The US papers clearly took sides during last year's coup, and they certainly weren't on Chavez's side. The local ones have been sharply criticised for siding with large corporations (thus anti-Chavez).
        (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
        (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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        • #19
          Down with Chavez!

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          • #20
            It's also interesting to note that all the major media outlets in Venezeula are government owned. They're government owned and they're still anti-Chavez. Face it the guy is a crook, a dictator, and his policies have run the country into the ground.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Oerdin
              It's also interesting to note that all the major media outlets in Venezeula are government owned. There government owned and they're still rabidly anti-Chavez. Face it the guy s a crook, a dictator, and his policies have run the country into the ground.
              He's damn sure no Stalin.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Oerdin
                It's also interesting to note that all the major media outlets in Venezeula are government owned. They're government owned and they're still anti-Chavez. Face it the guy is a crook, a dictator, and his policies have run the country into the ground.
                It also shows that the guy isn't as much a dictator as he's been made out to be.

                The CBC's government-owned, but that doesn't mean they're government supporters.
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                • #23
                  Yes but the Canadian PM hasn't gone around changing the constitution, reducing the powers of parliment, dismissing judges who were appointed by previous administrations on the ground they were reactionary anti-socialists (translation: they disagreed with Chavez ), or threatened to dismiss media editors if they didn't start to print more articles that were supportive of the govenment. I also doubt Chrétien ever tried a military coupe to take power; unlike Chavez.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Oerdin
                    It's also interesting to note that all the major media outlets in Venezeula are government owned.
                    Cite?
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                    • #25
                      My source is NPR's talk of the nation. You can check the NPR wed site and you might come up with something. I personally heard it over the radio.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Oerdin
                        Yes but the Canadian PM hasn't gone around changing the constitution, reducing the powers of parliment, dismissing judges who were appointed by previous administrations on the ground they were reactionary anti-socialists (translation: they disagreed with Chavez ), or threatened to dismiss media editors if they didn't start to print more articles that were supportive of the govenment. I also doubt Chrétien ever tried a military coupe to take power; unlike Chavez.
                        You mean like that other self-proclaimed president?

                        They even went so far as to endorse the coup's first government action whereby the self-proclaimed president annulled the Constitution of the Republica Bolivariana of Venezuela, changed the name of the country and dissolved all public powers, including the legislative power and the dismissal of state governors. The media quickly launched a campaign with an "Orwellian" doublespeak celebration of return to "democracy".
                        I always have thought that Chavez is light years ahead of this guy.
                        (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                        (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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                        • #27
                          The Venezuelan opposition screwed itself. Chavez outlasted them, kept the army's support, and will probably break the striking oil workers. (Why can one fire all striking air traffic controllers but not all striking oil workers? but of course mass firings of workers who strike is something only done by dictators...)

                          If Chavez is still in power it is because the Venezuelan opposition has no plan, no vision for the state, other then the anti-Chavez. you don't win on a negative. And if Chavez got elected it is because ther ones before him had failed to stem corruption and turn the tide of poverty (but certainly people do not vote on economic issues...)

                          Chavez is a radical who has created dammage to Venezuela. The problem is that the oppostion is as useless today as it was when ruling Venezuela. They need a third alternative, and probably won't get one.
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                          • #28
                            "Why can one fire all striking air traffic controllers but not all striking oil workers?"

                            Nothing wrong with firing strikers, it is however wrong to jail people for striking.
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                            • #29
                              I second that firing is A.O.K. while prision is totally unacceptable. I even agree with Gepap that the opposition won't be able to get their act togeather and so Chavez will be able to continue his growing dictatorship like position.
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                              • #30
                                On the other hand, since I suspect the US is very likely behind this strike,

                                Does the boogeyman hide under your bed as well, che?
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