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Originally posted by paiktis22
Who can actually blame us for preventing another young country's expansionist inspiration?
Who can actually blame us for preventing another young country's expansionist inspiration?
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No one as long as you acknowledge that the Occupations og the West BAnk continues as a result of teh PA's failure to give up its own expansionist inspiration at Taba in 2001."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber -
Well OK, I never actually thought about it this way, but I guess you're right and this pararelism can be made.Originally posted by lord of the mark
Again much like the PLO charter.
I doubt we will see terrorist attacks though.Comment
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Nope because we are not actively occupying FYROM. (despite Milosevic's proposal to be split between Greece and Serbia)Originally posted by lord of the mark
No one as long as you acknowledge that the Occupations og the West BAnk continues as a result of teh PA's failure to give up its own expansionist inspiration at Taba in 2001.Comment
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No, youre not, because youve never been seriously threatened from FYROM, either by terrorism, or by conventional forces - well you WERE threatened, by Yugoslavia back in the 40's, but then you had the US behind you. US couldnt go into Yugo at that time without risking war with USSR. Once Yugo broke with USSR Tito had stopped threatening you, IIUC.Originally posted by paiktis22
Nope because we are not actively occupying FYROM. (despite Milosevic's proposal to be split between Greece and Serbia)"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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In any case Canadians are SO worthless
Aint it the truth little old man?
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Not threatened because we made it clear that we can cripple them (and actually did so with the embargo) .Originally posted by lord of the mark
No, youre not, because youve never been seriously threatened from FYROM, either by terrorism, or by conventional forces - well you WERE threatened, by Yugoslavia back in the 40's, but then you had the US behind you. US couldnt go into Yugo at that time without risking war with USSR. Once Yugo broke with USSR Tito had stopped threatening you, IIUC.
I like to think about this as giving the time to another young country to mature and let go of its nationalistic and expansionist rage WITHOUT actually thinking about spilling one drop pf blood from our or their soldiers
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No you wont be, cause they know that if they did that you'd march in, and youd be a lot toughter on them than the Israelis are on the Pals, cause you wouldnt have to fear world opinion so much cause youre not.... (musnt say it, musnt say it) In fact you occupied em and the did terrorist acts against you, and you offered to withdraw ifrom 98% of them in exchange for peace, conditional on them giving up clims on Greece, and they turned it down, and then they started more terrorist acts, youd probably just expel them all and the world would be quite understanding.Originally posted by paiktis22
Well OK, I never actually thought about it this way, but I guess you're right and this pararelism can be made.
I doubt we will see terrorist attacks though.
So no, youre correct, you probably wont see terrorist acts."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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The issue with the name has got to beresovled though. It is a thorn in normal relations. We are also now their biggest foreign investor and their future lies with us.
Whichis good. We want to be friends not enemies with our neighboors.
A solution about the name must be made.
But now they will have an albanian majority in 10 years or so so we could maybe negotiaze a bit more easily with two ethnic peoples than just one. (just one ignites nationalism)Comment
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Because we're not jews?Originally posted by lord of the mark
and youd be a lot toughter on them than the Israelis are on the Pals, cause you wouldnt have to fear world opinion so much cause youre not.... (musnt say it, musnt say it)
I sincerely hope that you'd quit thinking that, I don't think this is the case IMHO.Comment
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I fervently hope that FOPG can find away to resolve its name hang up with FYROM.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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does the name Palestine imply a claim to the entire Palestine mandate????? Israel would settle for an end to terror, and a dropping of all territorial claims on Israel, including rights of return. Oh and a reasonable settelment of the problem of Israels capital (be glad the MAcedonians dont claim half of Athens - be very glad) Youve got all that - Id suggest you just be happy with what youve got and leave them alone about the name.Originally posted by paiktis22
The issue with the name has got to beresovled though. It is a thorn in normal relations."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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actually, there is no evidence to the contrary(that they were something other than greeks)...Originally posted by lord of the mark
It is not at all clear that the Macedonian commoners at the time of Alexander were hellenized - IIRC the evidence is scanty, and such as exists is mixed.Co-Founder, Apolyton Civilization Site
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LOTM everyboy (extremists) are claiming everybody elses things in the Balkans Old story.
However IMHO we have to prevail also about their name not just their constitution and their flag.
This must be done in such a way that will eradicate the propaganda of "Macedonians" trying to liberate all of Macedonia.
How this will be done?
I'm up for proposals but it has to be done because social engineering can do bad things in the Balkans and what is OK now will not be ok in 20 years.
I sincerely don't think we can settle for anything less and I sincerely think that is for the best of the region.
I mean they started calling themselves "Macedonians" in the late 20th century.
As long as their nationalism rages we cannot back down IMHO.
If they mature we can think about it.Comment
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And the perfect epitome for all of this is of course
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Originally posted by paiktis22
In any case Canadians are SO worthless
Aint it the truth little old man?
It alway too easy to tell when yer upset paticakes.
Thats 5 insult shots since I left to eat dinner.
Just told my kid to quit teasing the dog, Think i'll take
my own advice and quit trolling you.
At least until next time you post something utterly moronic. Then it's the rolled up newspaper again
for you.
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