Do you feel alienated by your country?

[Asher]

Yes, definitely.

[Boris Godunov]

Alienation from the mainstream isn't something new to me, obviously. But I see what you're saying, and would tend to agree. Living in the island of liberalism that is New York City, it's all too easy to become so used to the culture here so that there is a bit of a culture shock when I visit middle America.

[Curiosity]

From across the atlantic, the view of the US is of a uniquely diverse country, continuously struggling to hold many viewpoints together. The result of this seems to be a crazily complex system that bars much change and experimentation. (20,00 gun laws? I mean, c'mon!)
I wonder if a more EU style model would work better - then Cali could choose for itself, whether or not to send troops to Iraq. How would the Americans here feel about that?

In Ireland, I live in the one county out of thirty -odd which can basically dictate what will happen to the entire rest of the country. Doesn't mean I always agree with what the government does, though.

[MrFun]

There are definitely times when I feel alienated by my country's society, but it's not constant.

[Zylka]

I feel alienated by the old computer monitor sitting in the next room at times, for f*cks sake

Anyone hear about collecting "Catcher in the Rye"?

[Berzerker]

The bay area as a whole is liberal and theres no bones about it but it pains me when i see the rest of our nation disagrees considerably with our area on almost all issues.

I feel that california is dragged into things (such as this war) by people in other states, and use our large tax base (california is the 7th largest economy in the world) to their own ends.

Well well, a liberal lamenting the "re-distribution of wealth".

[devilmunchkin]

zylka: cause then i'd be broke! though canada sounds nice..but also very cold..and at the current moment, the Texas winter is almost too much for me.

shi huangdi: so wait a minute....are you saying baylor isn't a norm? i guess i've been here so long that i don't know what the rest of the world is doing...

[Velociryx]

To answer the question originally posed by this thread:

I have never felt alienated by my country, but as of tonight, I feel alienated by, and deeply ashamed of the man who is currently this nation's leader.

-=Vel=-

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Velociryx
To answer the question originally posed by this thread:

I have never felt alienated by my country, but as of tonight, I feel alienated by, and deeply ashamed of the man who is currently this nation's leader.

-=Vel=-

Okay...what did I miss?

edit: nevermind.

[notyoueither]

Re: Do you feel alienated by your country?

Originally posted by MRT144
And i know a lot of people would say good riddance to bad rubbish if california was no longer part of the union, but i think the oppisite would hold equally true.

Come home to the Empire...

British California. It has a nice ring to it. I suppose we could make room for another territory. What, that would make 4?

[Ted Striker]

MRT are you wearing a jimmy sack like we told you to?!?

[MRT144]

yes, ive been wearing many a "jimmy sack" since the incident. thank god californians arent afraid to provide them for free ala planned parenthood.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well well, a liberal lamenting the "re-distribution of wealth".

Nice call, berz. What about the good for the whole stuff?

And no, I've never been alienated by my country. But I wonder, if you do feel alienated by your country why do you persist in staying? I mean, wouldn't it be logical that you'd go to somewhere where you wouldn't feel alienated?

[cinch]

Do you feel alienated by your country?

In a way, yes. Mostly because the eastern half of the country decides everything that happens, and the west is basically an afterthought. I also dislike how the only party that comes close to recognising the west is a laughingstock with a redneck image. And I hate how the party in power has ALL the power. And I don't understand why, after all this time, our senate is STILL appointed! AAAARGH!

Calm blue ocean... Calm blue ocean...

Yes, definitely. -Asher

No kidding! You are like the anti-Chretien. Which is why I assume you feel right at home in our fair province.

PS: Damn your Flames! Why can Iginla only turn it on when it hurts us the most?!

[cinch]

But I wonder, if you do feel alienated by your country why do you persist in staying? I mean, wouldn't it be logical that you'd go to somewhere where you wouldn't feel alienated?

Because there's always the chance you can change it?