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  • Do you feel alienated by your country?

    Well living in the bay area i feel alienated by the rest of the nation and the political views they have. The bay area as a whole is liberal and theres no bones about it but it pains me when i see the rest of our nation disagrees considerably with our area on almost all issues.

    I dont feel as american as i do californian. I feel that california is dragged into things (such as this war) by people in other states, and use our large tax base (california is the 7th largest economy in the world) to their own ends.

    This is just my perception as i read through what a lot of other people say here and what is expressed in the media by people from other regions.

    And i know a lot of people would say good riddance to bad rubbish if california was no longer part of the union, but i think the oppisite would hold equally true.
    "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
    'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

  • #2
    Yes. But it's not a feeling : it's a fact.
    What?

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    • #3
      vive la californie libre
      CSPA

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      • #4
        Dude!
        What?

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        • #5
          I'll come over and fight for your liberation, go cali go!

          I wish someone would oust our corrupt governement
          The true way of sword fencing is the craft of defeating the enemy in a fight, and nothing other than this.
          -Miyamoto Shinmen Musashi

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          • #6
            Yeah I do, a lot of people here in Holland have such soft political views and I haven't, I'm much more right wing( I don't mean extreme right wing).

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            • #7
              Perhaps California should join the EU?

              Nah, the French would never agree to this, because of Hollywood.
              "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
              George Orwell

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              • #8
                obviously i do...
                maybe not my country..but maybe by what MIGHT be a minority screaming to be heard. i can't tell what the truth is..i can't tell if this society really is teeming with christians who want to force their beliefs on everyone or if they just scream louder than everyone else.
                but i'm inthe heart of bush country and the baptist bible belt. when i came here, i didn't realize it would be this bad...i stick out like a sore thumb. it gets lonely.
                at this moment, i'm afraid bush will plunge the world into bloodshed needlessly..but i also fear i could be wrong and blood now might spare more in the future. but he's killing our forgein relations and prolly making more ignorant people hate americans...it's a precarious situation.
                "Speaking on the subject of conformity: This rotting concept of the unfathomable nostril mystifies the fuming crotch of my being!!! Stop with the mooing you damned chihuahua!!! Ganglia!! Rats eat babies!" ~ happy noodle boy

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                • #9
                  So why don't you just move to trendy downtown Vancouver and become a heroin addict with me?

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                  • #10
                    cause i'm already messed up enough without adding drugs into the mix. i'm preparing to move somewhere else anyway...waiting for grad school.
                    "Speaking on the subject of conformity: This rotting concept of the unfathomable nostril mystifies the fuming crotch of my being!!! Stop with the mooing you damned chihuahua!!! Ganglia!! Rats eat babies!" ~ happy noodle boy

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                    • #11
                      So why don't you just move to spiffy downtown Toronto and come shopping with me?

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                      • #12
                        I don't feel alienated by my country, because I belong to the standards of society here (white male belonging to the upper-middle class), and that my opinions and party are viewed with sympathy by others because of their current weakness.
                        If I were from Arabic descent and lived in poor suburbs, it would be greatly different though.
                        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                        • #13
                          "obviously i do...
                          maybe not my country..but maybe by what MIGHT be a minority screaming to be heard. i can't tell what the truth is..i can't tell if this society really is teeming with christians who want to force their beliefs on everyone or if they just scream louder than everyone else. "

                          Well you are at Baylor University, a place known for its nutjobs...
                          "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                          "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                          • #14
                            I don't feel alienated at all. Contrary to what the media tells you, the majority of Americans don't want this war. The popular majority of voting Americans don't even want it. I'm not about to believe some USAToday or CNN poll. They call up a bunch of rich, conservative, white men and ask them what they think.

                            Sure, almost everybody wants Saddam gone. But not at the price tag of a 100 billion dollar war. That doesn't even count the cost of human lives. Or the cost of inciting an Arab world that already doesn't like us too much.
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #15
                              Seeing as how I'm Russian, not Ukrainian, I'd say so.
                              The two real political parties in America are the Winners and the Losers. The people don't acknowledge this. They claim membership in two imaginary parties, the Republicans and the Democrats, instead." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr. My (crappy) LiveJournal

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