Did Powell's presentation convince you?

[The Mad Monk]

The aluminum tubes and magnets show that Iraq is still trying to develop nuclear weapons, in direct contradiction of Security Council resolutions. The wireless intercepts are clear evidence of violation of 1441. The connection between Al Queda and Iraq has been proven (in spite of some on this board saying that was impossible due to philosophical differences), and damn scary.

Take him down now.

[Berzerker]

Sorry, almost nothing will convince me except common sense. Of course Saddam has WMD, I sure would if I lived in that part of the world. But I don't trust my own government either, and I sure don't trust alleged radio transcripts/recordings or satellite photos. A few months after the Gulf War, the St Petersburg Times exposed the lie that satellite photos revealed Iraqis massing on the border with Saudi Arabia for a second invasion. We were lied to then, so why would the GOP/Dems discover morality now? The Kuwaiti ambassador's daughter testified before Congress that she saw babies being pulled from incubators by the Iraqis, but her identity was kept from the American public. Why? Because those of us with brains might wonder what she was doing in Kuwait after the invasion. Tom Lantos (D-Cal) chaired the hearing in which she testified and was later asked why he didn't want us to know who she was and he said he didn't see how her identity was relevant. This guy is a ******* lawyer! He didn't know the true identity of a witness was relevant? BS!!! LIARS!!!

[Imran Siddiqui]

This guy is a ******* lawyer! He didn't know the true identity of a witness was relevant?

Um.... why is it relevant to tell the whole world who this person was? I don't get what this has to do with him being a lawyer. This wasn't a trial.

[aaglo]

I'm not convinced at all. They show a satellite pic of a truck, and they say it's a portable weapons lab...

I wonder what kind of manufacturing facilities for wepunsofmuhdstuchun can the american officials find in this picture...

[Pekka]

aaglo, you live in a tree?

[Pekka]

aaglo, but I think that wasn't too bad. It's hard to give evidence proving these trucks. I remember reading about these trucks months ago when some Iraqi scientist who fled to Europe or the US told about them. Yes, it could be strategy all the way, but then it was a good game. He told about those trucks, and that he had actually worked in one.

[Ramo]

Um.... why is it relevant to tell the whole world who this person was? I don't get what this has to do with him being a lawyer. This wasn't a trial.

A high government official from a ruthless, authoritarian state would never manipulate his daughter into lying to save his government's ass.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Nevs23
Even if the Iraq mass destruction weapons have. This is not a reason for war.
Nobody makes war against the USA for this reason but they have also mass destruction stuff.
This is a question of the point of view.
Is the USA or the Iraq "bad".


(Excuse my english... 6:00 o'clock.)

Not this arguement again...

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Pekka
aaglo, you live in a tree?

Very interesting thread so far. Got to see how a lot of people stand now on this very important issue of Iraq.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by aaglo
I'm not convinced at all. They show a satellite pic of a truck, and they say it's a portable weapons lab...

I wonder what kind of manufacturing facilities for wepunsofmuhdstuchun can the american officials find in this picture...

Well, it looks like two large oil storage tanks along with a smaller one, surrounded by containment ****s. I first thought the two tall thin structures were distillation columns, but I'm coming to believe they're just smoke stacks. The blocky building to the right definately looks like an enclosed reactor building, while the low broad building may house labs and offices, perhaps warehouse space. I'm not sure whether the horizontal structure crossing the highway is a bridge, an elevated pipeline, or both, but it appears to empty into some kind of...sludge pond?

So, I'll guess it's a petrochemical plant.

How'd I do?

[MRT144]

they didnt prove that iraq is a direct threat to america...and thats what i think really matters.

[The Mad Monk]

They're enough of a threat providing training and materiel to Al Queda.

[MRT144]

prove it mad monk

[The Mad Monk]

Powell handed you the relevent connections.

Mob bosses have been convicted on less.

[MRT144]

no he didnt. first off the relevant connections are at odds with each other. OBL doesnt like saddam and the northern terrorist group is out of the control of saddam hussein and even oposes him. all he has is circumstantial evidence which doesnt even make sense.

if thats good enough for you perhaps youd like to move to illinois and convict a lot of black men?