Rugby - Hemisphere Wars!

[Havak]

So stop tautologising!

I have been trying to.

I'd like to say you come across - in horseracing parlance - as by Larkham out of Wilko ... and I think the rest is best left unsaid.

I honestly don’t get allusions to horse racing. It’s a closed book to me. Still at least that means I cannot take any offence.

Flavell sounds like he has problems – both incidents you have mentioned are out and out offensive actions rather than defensive in any way.

Having english origins is an advantage as far as Havak is concerned but seems to be considered as a flaw everywhere in the world as Havak told us englishmen are hated all around the world...

If not by everyone everywhere?

The name of this infamous official shall not be wrote as it must disappear into the shadows of oblivion.

I’m tempted to say do you mean Mr…. But I will not.

This weekend is hugely important Tamerlin. We have almost a second string out to rest some borderline injuries. It had better not backfire on us.

Come on Les Bleues! Who is the assigned referee? If he is SH I can forsee an angry Tamerlin on Saturday.

[finbar]

Originally posted by Havak
I honestly don?t get allusions to horse racing. It?s a closed book to me. Still at least that means I cannot take any offence.

Mmmmm. Okay. In the horseracing world, breeding shorthand is expressed as "By (the sire) out of (the mare)". Thus my point was that I'd like to say S. Larkham was your father and Wilko your mother - leaving aside all biological realities on the basis that I'm writing metaphorically - thus giving you a decent old pedigree as a backline general ...

Now take offence, for crying out loud! Otherwise I've wasted two posts!

Flavell sounds like he has problems ? both incidents you have mentioned are out and out offensive actions rather than defensive in any way.

He does have problems, unfortunately. He has played for the ABs, and he does have ability. It doesn't even seem to be a temper-related problem. His first defence this time was that it was entirely accidental but the video evidence is to the contrary. His second defence was that he did ruck the player but didn't mean to get him in the head and that he'd been provoked by oppo players in the maul. Now he has apologised and said he won't appeal the sentence.

This weekend is hugely important Tamerlin. We have almost a second string out to rest some borderline injuries. It had better not backfire on us.

Talk about a pre-emptive excuse!

Come on Les Bleues! Who is the assigned referee? If he is SH I can forsee an angry Tamerlin on Saturday.

I wonder where Tamerlin gets his angry pills? They sure work.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Havak
Come on Les Bleues! Who is the assigned referee? If he is SH I can forsee an angry Tamerlin on Saturday.

The referee is from South Agrica: Andre Watson...

At least this is not Mr H*****...

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by finbar
Talk about a pre-emptive excuse!

Caligastia and you have given him good lessons...

I wonder where Tamerlin gets his angry pills? They sure work.

I don't need any angry pill, I just have to think about England-France and more generally about a SH referee...

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Havak
This is the form I would use to a waiter I didn’t know well? If on the other hand I wanted to ask yourself for more of the same I would say what please?

Though a bit colloquial something like:
"Vas-y, remets en une couche!" ("come on, add a new layer!") would do the trick.

Mark Andrews did sign for Newcastle – and they won the first two games after he arrived. Since then normal service, as Finbar noted, has been resumed. Did he have a reputation for violence – he has always seemed a ***** cat alongside the England second rows. But then we breed ‘em mean here.

This man is a very tough player, he would go along well with Butch "Butcher" James and could be nicknamed the "Hammer".

They don’t pull down mauls. They just have trouble with their footing on a slippy surface whenever defending against one.

Isn't it an Australian specificity?

[finbar]

Originally posted by Tamerlin

"Vas-y"

That's interesting. I know it's colloquial, but it's the second person singular of aller, isn't it. And y in other contexts means, amongst other things, "there", doesn't it? And colloquially, it turns into "Come on!". Ain't language a grand thing.

[finbar]

Originally posted by Tamerlin


Caligastia and you have given him good lessons...

We have! Our dealings with Havak are worthy of Pavlov and his experiments!

[finbar]

Originally posted by Tamerlin


The referee is from South Agrica: Andre Watson...

He's said to be the best all-round SH ref. He's been called too pedantic in his time, so I'm not sure what will happen if he starts applying these new IRB directives.

[Bearcat]

Originally posted by Havak
It’s a big plus for you in rugby terms alone. Double points if it was Leicestershire her family came from. England is the birth place of the beautiful game and Leicester it’s spiritual home. Don’t listen to the SH guys when they knock these facts – they are just jealous.

I think one of the guys from way back came over from Sheffield. He was a knifemaker. I guess Sheffield is well known for that.

They don’t pull down mauls. They just have trouble with their footing on a slippy surface whenever defending against one.

Oh, I see

[ravagon]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Any ideas for a new thread title guys?

In line with the present one - Rugby: The Northern Hemisphere Strikes Back.


Or, to take another tack - Rugby: Southern Hemisphere Triumphant!
(Maybe this last should be reserved until after the RWC )

[ravagon]

Originally posted by finbar

A bit of an udate on the unfortunate Troy Flavell, the Auckland lock outed for stomping. I'd quite forgotten, but was reminded by the FoxSports rugby show tonight, that he was once outed for 12 months for eye gouging but the suspension was reduced to 3 weeks on appeal. Enough said.

More unfortunate for the Blues that he's back I'd say. Oy.
On the other hand - 52 weeks down to 3? Warney could have used such an appeals process.

[Havak]

Now take offence, for crying out loud! Otherwise I've wasted two posts!

Rest easy tonight. I am offended – suggesting I have the genetics to be a ‘Girlie’ indeed.

I should have been able to work out the reference as well of course – which is more embarassing.

Now he has apologised and said he won't appeal the sentence.

Which seems right. Lame justifications there all right.

Talk about a pre-emptive excuse!

To be honest Finbar I would expect Newcastle to handle Italy even if Wilko was on the bench. I was just pointing out it’s an experimental side in some ways. The fullback in particular, Josh Lewsey, has leap frogged the expected man Stimpson. Lewsey is quick and lethal in space but he is 26, has only seven caps, and has always worried me defensively. It’s a conservative choice with an eye on Scotland and Ireland to come I think – to avoid his solid back up fullback getting mauled by the Azzuri?

No need to ask who you will be supporting?

Caligastia and you have given him good lessons...

Nice line.

Vas-y, remets en une couche!

You see I can take you advice without starting a debate on the phrase.

Watson is not too bad as I recall – he can’t be as out and out dire as Honiss or Walsh – can he?

Isn't it an Australian specificity?

All our teams do it. Australians, as with so many things, simply do it better perhaps?

Our dealings with Havak are worthy of Pavlov and his experiments!

Far worthier at times.

He's been called too pedantic in his time

David McHugh pedantic? I can’t see it. As I say I think he is okay myself. Most of the time.

I think one of the guys from way back came over from Sheffield. He was a knifemaker. I guess Sheffield is well known for that.

The boys probably do not know this but Havak did his Undergrad time at Sheffield, and lived there for four years on and off. Still has friends there and loves the city.

Basically Bearcat you are digging a real hole with Finbar here I think.

Oh, I see

You will note Tamerlin disagrees with me.

In line with the present one - Rugby: The Northern Hemisphere Strikes Back.
Or, to take another tack - Rugby: Southern Hemisphere Triumphant!
(Maybe this last should be reserved until after the RWC)

But it could be embarassing to use that after the England-France final?

And for the former it has promise – but given England are number one (haven’t mentioned that for a few days?) it probably needs to be SH strikes back ready for the RWC warm up games?

Huge weekend of rugger – Ireland v France first tomorrow followed by the wooden spoon game (Wales-Scotland). And then Sunday England-Italy. Better get some more beer in (only have a case).

I’m backing France and England of course. And…Scotland I think on balance. Surprise anyone there?

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by finbar
That's interesting. I know it's colloquial, but it's the second person singular of aller, isn't it.

Yes, nothing to add here except that the main colloquial part of the sentence is in the second part "remets en une couche". "Vas-y" is not really colloquial in itself, it just means "come on" or "do it"...

...and y in other contexts means, amongst other things, "there", doesn't it? And colloquially, it turns into "Come on!".

True, "y" is often used to avoid a repetition and means "there" or "it" as in the following sentences:

Mom: "Ton père n'accepte pas ton engagement dans l'Infanterie Mobile" (your father does not accept your enlistment in the Mobile Infantry).
Ricoh: "Il faudra bien qu'il s'y fasse" (he will have to go along with it).

...

Federal Network: "Voulez-vous en savoir plus?" (do you want to know more?)

Ain't language a grand thing.

Yes, it is...

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Havak
Vas-y, remets en une couche!

You can count on me!

Watson is not too bad as I recall – he can’t be as out and out dire as Honiss or Walsh – can he?

I would have preferred something like: "Watson is rather good..."

All our teams do it. Australians, as with so many things, simply do it better perhaps?

You will note Tamerlin disagrees with me.

Yes I am!

But it could be embarassing to use that after the England-France final?

We will remind them in time.

I’m backing France and England of course. And…Scotland I think on balance. Surprise anyone there?

I would have bet it, of course you don't have any interest in France winning against Ireland...

[Havak]

You can count on me!

I have total faith in you.

I would have preferred something like: "Watson is rather good..."

You know me – the glass is half empty not half full.

I would have bet it, of course you don't have any interest in France winning against Ireland...

I am a true neutral favouring the side I think plays better Rugby more consistently.

Honest.