Nasa is a waste of funds!

[Sava]

DanS, there are many, many, many, many sectors of the US economy that are huge wastes of money.

Doc: Cell phones do save lives. There are countless untracked statistics of people that benefit from other technologies that have come from NASA research. Stop focusing on one negative issue and look at the big picture.

[Docfeelgood]

Before you go any further please read Eli's link.

Thank you.




Why do we have to go into space to do this same research on solid ground?
Because it will only work in space?
Then it won't work on solid ground then.

These deposits can lead to heart disease, the number one cause of death in the United States.

#1. the leading cause of heart disease is caused by genetics (blame your parents)
#2 so if you a American this is good reason for NASA?
#3 it is all done for profit


All this is prove to me that going to space is a waste.

All this could have been done here on good ole planet Earth.

[Docfeelgood]

Without NASA we wouldn't have:GPS
Weather Satelites
Satelite Recon for military purposes
Satelite Surveying
Cell Phones

Not trying to belittle you


but I think the privet sector contributed to all this not NASA.

Most these satallites were launched from other sources as NASA costed too much with the shuttel.

[DanS]

Yes, it is the Air Force, which has a comparable black space budget to NASA.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

And yet the counter arguement exists that these types of research would not have been done without a drive to space.

If your point is that these research advances pale in comparison verses the amount expended thats one issue which may be valid, but I dare say the shear plethora/quantity of advances that the private sector has been able to take advantage of and promote the better welfare of mankind, at first brush appears to validate NASA, without even commenting on the larger political arena alluded to by DanS.

[Docfeelgood]

And yet the counter arguement exists that these types of research would not have been done without a drive to space.

I saw a thing on TV where this reporter found out that it was good marketing tool to metion in there marketing stratagy that "if not for NASA these so called acomplishment could have not been done".

We are lied to and this does not bother any of you?


This is the type of stuff that I say will rock NASA to its foundation.
in the comming investigations.

[MrFun]

There were many scientific experiments that have been done in orbit that would not have been possible here on Earth -- even with artificial chambers of zero gravity here on Earth, the experiments would not be as good as the ones done in orbit.

I'm proud of all the astronauts that work in orbit.

[Capt Dizle]

Stone age reasoning.

[Docfeelgood]

There were many scientific experiments that have been done in orbit that would not have been possible here on Earth -- even with artificial chambers of zero gravity here on Earth, the experiments would not be as good as the ones done in orbit.

Can these so called experiments justify there cost?
IF....IF... they are of upmost important to understand why spiders make funny webs in zero gravity so important, then could not robots have done the same thing at a cheaper cost?


think!

[Ozz]

If man was mean to fly he would have wings

What's with these horseless carriages?

Voyage of exploration? There's no profit in that Isabella

Real men hunt cave bears without using pointy sticks.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Docfeelgood
Billions of dollars spent and many lives lost for CELL PHONES?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


sad

The space program has set the stage for developments for so many things, it's just ludicrous to question the value. Another one to add to the list is fuel cell technology. Or how about velcro, for something a bit more mundane.

Would we have the Hubble telescope without NASA? Would we know anything at all about Mars or the rest of the solar system? Or do you propose that we just bury our heads in the sand here on Earth and pretend that there isn't a vast universe out there to explore?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Doc it comes down to a number of issues and how you view them.

On the one hand you seem to be wary of any government endeavor that is used for commercial enterprise in support of private sector making money.

On the other hand you seem to be wary of basic research. I've said before unless some agency/institution is willing to engage in basic research then advancements usually come in the form of evolutionary steps.

IMO industry, private sector has neither the patience nor resolve to embark on long term basic research programs as payback tends to be rather long term. An institution like NASA serves a greater purpose unless you subscribe to the philosophy that "we have discovered all there is to discover" mentality.

That would put you in the smae category as the majority of the 19th century physicists by the way. OTOH, you may be looking at the what has NASA done for us lately. I can not imagine that the agency won't be putting some major PR out soon to indicate their value.

Regardless the best means to stop the advancement of the human species is to stop research. The dissolution of NASA would be a great first step to this goal.

[Docfeelgood]

Stone age reasoning.

Now that is pathetic reasoning


Come on people!
think!

I know not all of you are mindless sheep


Hey, Star Trek is an ok show... but that is no reason to waste our funds and limited resourses.

The moon and Mars are nothing but cold,inhabital dirt balls.
What can a robot do that a man cannot do?

The only thing I can think of that a man can do is waste more funds,resources and have bragging rights.


whyt are you so quick to waste all this money and resources?

[Willem]

Originally posted by Docfeelgood



Can these so called experiments justify there cost?
IF....IF... they are of upmost important to understand why spiders make funny webs in zero gravity so important, then could not robots have done the same thing at a cheaper cost?


think!

I'd suggest you take your own advise! Or are you trying to imply that robot technology is sophisticated enough that they can even hope to replace humans? For that matter, how far along would robot technology be if it weren't for NASA utilizing it in space? That was the first area where it was used, and now it's becoming commonplace in industry, medicine etc. etc., thanks in part from what was learned in space.

PS I can't believe I'm actually responding to your drivel. I'm certainly glad that your views represent an extreme minority.

[Docfeelgood]

HOLD one minute!

I am not saying that we should not explore and do all those things that we don't know what they do.


Can we not do it more cost effective with robots?

Priortize the importance of the mission?


They have allready proven that for man to live in space for any indefinat time is beyond our means.

It CANNOT be done, so stop wasting the funds and resorces.