I have a question about marriage.

[DanielXY]

The question is not why there are so many divorces... The real question is why ppl. marry

If you are rational about it there is just no reason to do it (other than religious maybe).
Marriage is basicly commitment. Why do you want to be commited or why should your partner be commited to you? Do you really want your partner to stay with you out of practical reasons (damn that devorce stuff is complicated ... what property belongs to who again... etc)?
I prefer relationsships which both can end at anytime. Only this way you can be sure your partner is with you cose s/he really wants to and not cose of some other bs (money or whatever).

[Imran Siddiqui]

1/10

That much?!

I'd have given it a .001/10 .

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by DanielXY
The question is not why there are so many divorces... The real question is why ppl. marry

If you are rational about it there is just no reason to do it (other than religious maybe).
Marriage is basicly commitment. Why do you want to be commited or why should your partner be commited to you? Do you really want your partner to stay with you out of practical reasons (damn that devorce stuff is complicated ... what property belongs to who again... etc)?
I prefer relationsships which both can end at anytime. Only this way you can be sure your partner is with you cose s/he really wants to and not cose of some other bs (money or whatever).

Making a good point doesn't make you imune to the DL dance,


Imran:

[Imran Siddiqui]

Making a good point doesn't make you imune to the DL dance

Hey... I thought it did. Intelligence is the only respite from the dance

[TheStinger]

My post was serious it wasn't a troll.

Why else id there a bit where you give the bride away.

[DanielXY]

<--- Doesnt let Imran steal his good points...

<--- Is no DL!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Why else id there a bit where you give the bride away.

Because it is a nice tradition that shows that Daddy has no problem with Daddy's little girl to marry the brute that is to be her future husband. All it is is saying that the parents have no complaints with the guy.

[Skanky Burns]

Don't worry

[Simpsons mode]
No-one from Germany could be evil![/Simpsons mode]

[boann]

rufus , those are good answers.

im somewhat in agreement with those who also
said women don't want to put up with as much as they used to.

and AH i doubt you would feel the same if you found out your wife had a little action on the side.
oh but the female is supposed to look the other way while the male just does his thang
bah. MSP response
a troll , id give it a 10 since you got my dander up.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Why else id there a bit where you give the bride away.

Because it is a nice tradition that shows that Daddy has no problem with Daddy's little girl to marry the brute that is to be her future husband. All it is is saying that the parents have no complaints with the guy.

Exactly, Daddy has to say its ok for the daughter to marry. It implies ownership. It may not be seen like that any more buts that what it means

[Imran Siddiqui]

Exactly, Daddy has to say its ok for the daughter to marry. It implies ownership. It may not be seen like that any more buts that what it means

You read too much into things. I mean, really, you've never seen a marriage where someone other than the father gave the wife away? I'm sure her best friend didn't 'own' her, but he gave her away... what does that mean?

[TheStinger]

Most of it now is just tradition. But originally the church marriage transferred the woman form her father to her new husband. The new Husband could do what he wanted and the woman until recently couldn't do anything about it.

I don't want to stop people getting married in a church they should just realise what the cereomony derives from.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Most of it now is just tradition.

That ain't what you said:

Thats what happens when women are treated as property.( which the Christian marriage sevice perpetuates to this day)

(emphasis mine)

[MrFun]

I agree with a lot of the suggestions, but I have to strongly disagree with Zylka's earlier post about gay unions making all marriages less meaningful.

For one thing, many homosexuals have lost interest in forcing any religion to recognize and carry out gay marriage ceremonies. Now, many of us advocate that the state and federal governments should allow for secular, gay civil union ceremonies that have the same legal legitimacy.

There are many heterosexuals, as others have alluded to here, that have caused more damage to marriage, than homosexuals.

I think in today's society maybe something like 5% to 10% of all failed marriages end up in divorce, because now, more spouses are coming out when they realize they're actually gay or lesbian, rather than stifle themselves in the closet.

[TheStinger]

I meant that the Christain Church pepetuates it by not altering its service. It must still mean the same as it always did. However the people getting married only see it as a tradition thing.

The Church should alter its service or come out and say that its original meaning was wrong.

None of this matters in the UK as most people getting married in a Church wouldn't know the difference between the old and new testaments let alone what the marriage ceremony means.