Stalingrad remembered.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Yes, and you can find sources stating that neither of them did anything wrong at all. The point is, we ignore sources that are clearly ridiculous, and estimates of 100 million killed in the Holocaust and only a million or two killed by Stalin are clearly silly.

Right, but I'm trying to say that we'll never know whos the baddiest of the bad. Oh well.

[David Floyd]

They were equally evil. Fair enough?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by David Floyd
They were equally evil. Fair enough?

I'll settle for that.

[David Floyd]

Damn, if it were only this easy to reach a conclusion with Serb

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Right, but I'm trying to say that we'll never know whos the baddiest of the bad. Oh well.

I'll accept the equally bad for the purposes of this thread. However, I suspect that some people may not wish to find out who was worse.

[Propaganda]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


I'll settle for that.

I wouldn't. I'd rather believe historians who have had access to the Soviet Archives, like Mr. Zemskov and Mr. Dugin, rather than fascists and nationalists the likes of Solzhenitsyn and Conquest.

[notyoueither]

Nevermind. Wrong thread for this.

[Fidel]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Yes it did happen, and Hitler was just as crazy as Stalin. During the first few years of the war Stalin even ordered the imprisonment and execution of soldiers who tried to escape back to Soviet lines when their units were overrun and bypassed by the German blitzkrieg. By his command it was automatically assumed that such soldiers were traitors.

Please read my post next time more carefully. I only said that they NEVER used this on people who charged forward and had their charge repulsed (as portrayed in the movie). Security squads were placed behind defenders, not attackers.

[Fidel]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Well, I can tell you that without the Soviet Union, the Allies (US+Britain+minor allies) still would have defeated Germany, without a great deal of extra fighting.

hitler's germany or iraq?