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Originally posted by UberKruX
china, only if they conscript every person in their country to fight for them.
a billion men with pitchforks charging the enemy. you can only shoot so many
Would you use a pithfork like a spear? Then obviously the chinese would wipe out whole divisions of Russian armor. At least according to Civ 3 debates.
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Bear & The Dragon was annoying in that it took about 800 pages before the shooting started and then in 50 pages or so ( a day real time ), the US has won easily again. *yawn*
I used to enjoy Clancy's books but recently the OTT patriotrism and the really annoying representation of us "Brits" ( a term I hate just as much as Clancy's other favourite term for us - "limeys" ), as pretty useless militarily and prepared to follow his American characters anywhere at any time.
Back to the topic, the Russian's military is still pretty weak after the last few years following the debacle of Chechnya and so in any convential war - I'd expect China to do quite well. Bring nukes into the equation and the cockroaches win.
If you limit to current forces and non-nuclear - Russia, hands down.
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Freindship.
No matter how Yanks wants it, we will not fight with each other. On the other hand...we can always try to cooperate even a bit closer and start to kick some 'star&stripes' a$ses. This is much likely scenario than war against each other.
Originally posted by Luk
Russia, better arms, better fire power, better weaponry etc. Chinas has 10 times more people, but it does not matter if that people will not have arms to fight (that is why doctrine of police forces says that in battle with demonstrators there should be a ratio 10:1
Originally posted by Thrawn05
Say, where's ol' Tass? Shouldn't he be shooting his mouth off in this thread about now?
In bed, vomiting.
Anyway, I have to agree with serb here. Friendship would prevail over everything because, well, China and Russia would never get into a war.
However, in this incredibly unlikely situation, I'd say that Russia would win. Superior technology, nukes, and it has the political support of many countries (and China in a pre-emptive strike would be at a political disadvtange).
Oh, and Tom Clancy books..... He's become so "patriotic" that it COMPLETLY ruins his books now.
Yup. Both countries realise that a war between them with the US looming is A Stupid Idea.
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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
I'd think China would win a non-nuclear war. While Russia does have spme very advanced weapons, the Russian military is in a state of disrepair right now, extremely low morale, people not made, officers being forced to work as taxi drivers at night for more income, soldiers beating each other up...
A war on the Mother Land would bring them together...
besides, the Russians would only have to hold the chinese off till winter... let the cold do the rest
Hey, its happened dramatically twice already, why not a thrid time?
China could take a little territory, but not all of Russia.
I can't picture 500 million Chinese with pitchforks changing into the icy tudra.
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