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    Finnish day nurseries to pay royalties for nursery rhymes?

    It seems that Finnish equivalents of American RIAA, Teosto, which represents songwriters and publishers, and Gramex, which represents music producers and artists, want to force Finnish day nurseries to pay royalties every time nursery staff sings along with kids.

    Currently most of the Finnish cities have an existing deal with Gramex to use pre-recorded music in government-owned day nurseries. But now it seems that also Teosto wants to have its slice. According to Teosto's rep, every "musical performance" that uses copyrighted songs -- including sing-along by staff with the kids -- should be liable of paying royalties to Teosto. Also Gramex wants to force the private (those not owned by government) day nurseries to pay for the records they use in nurseries.

    In last year both organizations demanded Finnish government to abolish the system that allows churches to use religious hymns without royalties, even if the songs would normally require royalties to be paid (the copyrights cease 70 years after the original composer's death).

    Source: Iltalehti (requires registration, Finnish only)

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    [Edit]: obviously I should read the whole post...
    Last edited by aaglo; January 30, 2003, 07:37.
    I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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      urgh.NSFW

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      • #4
        Now all we need is the US RIAA to follow suit, forcing anyone buying it's records to pay additional fees everytime they play a song IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOME and the world will finally be rid of the corporate evil that is the Music Industry.

        Seriously, it is astounding how assinine these guys are. If the record has been paid for LET IT GO! They have no business forcing people to pay twice for a product unless they really are trying to commit commercial suicide.
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        • #5
          Horrible, isn't it. What's more surprising is that even this hasn't made the politicians slow down Teosto.

          Teosto takes away a charge for every bought CD-R too. And to my knowledge the tax is much higher then anywhere else. And if they already repair the costs by this charge, then why the heck is piracy illegal? It's not piracy, since everyone pays Teosto for it!

          I wonder what would happen if book publishers formed their own organisation and started taxing books with similar fervour...
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            every bought CDR??!!! for what?! why? how!
            urgh.NSFW

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            • #7
              Ah...the Finns finally show their true evilness, RIAA is nothing compared to their Finnish equivelant...
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              • #8
                Oh, and if you order chargeless CD-Rs from abroad, and the customs happen to notice them (i.e., they were ordered from a non-EU country ), you have to pay up.

                Of course, you can apply to get CDs free of charge, but you have to be an organisation or a company, and the paperwork is horrendous.

                FYI, I pay 10.90 e for ten 700 MB CD-Rs.
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                  FFS... this is getting pathetic...

                  Teosto

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                  • #10
                    This is ****ing outrageous.
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #11
                      Indeed. And the politicians don't give a damn, you have to wonder what sort of sums they are paid to keep quiet.
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                      • #12
                        Actually I should be quite happy afterall... I'm a sort of musician...
                        I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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                        • #13
                          so, corporate contributions to elections are legal, as well?

                          11 Euros for 10 CDs... . I am quite sure that we pay less. WAY less.
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #14
                            I saw a sale of CD-RW's the other day. They were on cardboard case, 1.20 euro per CD....

                            Yep, some sale...
                            I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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                              YEAAH! Our RIAA is BIGGER and BAD! We rule!
                              We're the big brother and the muscle now!
                              Die without honour murrican "RIAA"!

                              Teosto all the way!!! Ain't no stopping us now.. we got the groove..

                              personally if some of these people happens to fall down in the road just in front of me, I'm not so sure I'm going to even slow down. What am I doing in this god forsaken evil country? Foooken commies everyone of them!
                              In da butt.
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