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  • #16
    I'm sure that will go over well with the current government.


    The executive branch doesn't have much say in the matter. Seperation of powers and all that...
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
      The executive branch doesn't have much say in the matter. Seperation of powers and all that...
      I'm well aware of how it all works in theory.

      Bush has somewhat intervened before to help MS, remember...

      And I'm not sure how an appeal would help anyway. The laws in those states specify they can only get money back if they purchased the products directly from MS. Appealing ain't gonna change that...
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      • #18
        I'm well aware of how it all works in theory.


        In theory? Do you think it works any differently in reality? If so, please explain how the executive branch is going to have any influence in this matter...
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
          In theory? Do you think it works any differently in reality? If so, please explain how the executive branch is going to have any influence in this matter...
          Bush before ordered that MS not be broken up, which intervened with the Appeals court...

          Edit: And yes, I know he did this by pulling strings and ordering the DoJ to not persue it, but still...he can pull strings.
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          • #20
            Edit: And yes, I know he did this by pulling strings and ordering the DoJ to not persue it, but still...he can pull strings.


            Yes he can pull strings, but only within the executive branch. The Department of Justice is the executive branch's personal law firm; of course Bush has influence over them.

            In this case, however, you're dealing with independent lawyers and plaintiffs. Bush can't call off the dogs here, as he has no control over them. This case is totally in the judicial branches hands and Bush will have little to no influence over it.
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            • #21
              Fair enough, but if they're dumb enough to appeal this, they're all losing their own money.

              The laws in those four states are pretty clear in that they must buy directly from MS, which the plaintiffs did not do, which is why they were all thrown out of court...

              I don't see how an appeal is going to go back in time and rewrite those laws.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Asher
                And I'm not sure how an appeal would help anyway. The laws in those states specify they can only get money back if they purchased the products directly from MS. Appealing ain't gonna change that...
                IANAL, but if the cases are waiting for a hearing, that means the courts think that they have merit.
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                • #23
                  I don't think they're going to win on appeal either. You have to make a pretty strong case to overturn a lower court's decision.
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                  • #24
                    What, I thought MS ran FreeBSD on all their internal servers ...
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
                      What, I thought MS ran FreeBSD on all their internal servers ...
                      I think they have switched recently : to " total lower cost of ownership" model running their own servers.

                      Lower cost of ownership my a$$, marketing gurus, that is what MS is really good at.
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                      • #26
                        --"The parts of MS that usually didn't patch are things like Microsoft Game Studios"

                        I'll check my NANOG mails when I get in to work, but one of their divisions that was hit was either their security initiative division or the group that publishes patches...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                          What I would like to know is the legal basis for such a motion.
                          It was spelled out, rather simply, even for a layman with minimal reading ability, in the article excerpt posted above.
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                          • #28
                            For a lawyer, your comprehension ability is quite dismal. Or maybe that's normal for lawyers?
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                            • #29


                              Here's a great link about Microsoft's success.
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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