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    Worm Hits Microsoft, Which Ignored Own Advice
    By JOHN SCHWARTZ


    The frantic message came from the corporation's information technology workers: "HELP NEEDED: If you have servers that are nonessential, please shut down."

    The computer system was under attack by a rogue program called SQL Slammer, which affected servers running Microsoft software that had not been updated with a patch — issued months ago — to fix the vulnerability. The worm hindered the operations of hundreds of thousands of computers, slowed Internet traffic and even disrupted thousands of A.T.M. terminals.

    But this wasn't happening at just any company. It was occurring at Microsoft itself. Some internal servers were affected, and service to users of the Microsoft Network was significantly slowed.

    The disruption was particularly embarrassing for Microsoft, which has been preaching the gospel of secure computing. On Jan. 23, the company's chairman, Bill Gates, sent a memo to customers describing progress in improving its products since he announced a "trustworthy computing" initiative a year ago.

    "While we've accomplished a lot in the past year, there is still more to do," he wrote. He cited the hundreds of millions spent to shore up Microsoft's products, and its plans to deliver more secure products in the future. He also listed "things customers can do to help." The first item was "stay up to date on patches."

    The paradox was not lost on computer security experts. "Microsoft has been blaming the users, saying they have to keep their patches up to date," said Bruce Schneier, founder and chief technical officer of Counterpane Internet Security Inc., a company that manages security for customers. "On the other hand, their own actions demonstrate how unrealistic that position is."

    A spokesman for Microsoft, Rick Miller, confirmed that a number of the company's machines had gone unpatched, and that Microsoft Network services, like many others on the Internet, experienced a significant slowdown. "We, like the rest of the industry, struggle to get 100 percent compliance with our patch management," he said.

    "We recognize — now more than ever — that this is something we need to work on. And, like the rest of the industry, we're working to fix it."

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    And they said "It Can't Happen Here!"
    The ways of Man are passing strange, he buys his freedom and he counts his change.
    Then he lets the wind his days arrange and he calls the tide his master.

  • #2
    When you directly employ 40,000 people it's a given that quite a few of them do lots of stupid things.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #3
      Asher

      And just how many of them do you suppose will be told "Here's your hat, what's your hurry?" and be shown the door?
      The ways of Man are passing strange, he buys his freedom and he counts his change.
      Then he lets the wind his days arrange and he calls the tide his master.

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      • #4
        I'd suppose that's a real threat for quite a few people.

        It's now policy in MS that your job is on the line if there's a security vulnerability in code that you create, so this can be seen as an extension of that...
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #5


          Great article, Prometheus.
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          • #6
            The article didn't seem very funny to me, probably because Microsoft is largely a disorganized mess as a company.

            It's more like a coalition of dozens of companies reporting to the same CEO and the same bottom line rather than one large company.

            I bet that the division that made SQL Server had their side patched up. The parts of MS that usually didn't patch are things like Microsoft Game Studios (Asheron's Call 2 was offline for a couple days due to this)...it's not one big machine like lots of people like to envision it.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #7
              The article didn't seem very funny to me, probably because Microsoft is largely a disorganized mess as a company.


              You must not have a sense of humor. Odd for a Canadian; humor is about the only thing you guys do well.
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              • #8
                I don't find things that are to be expected to be funny...especially when they prevent me from playing my favorite games.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #9
                  If that was the policy, the whole place would've been turned over sometime in the early 90s....
                  If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Timexwatch
                    If that was the policy, the whole place would've been turned over sometime in the early 90s....
                    True. It only became policy with the Trustworthy Computing campaign just about a year old now...
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Asher
                      The article didn't seem very funny to me, probably because Microsoft is largely a disorganized mess as a company.

                      It's more like a coalition of dozens of companies reporting to the same CEO and the same bottom line rather than one large company.

                      I bet that the division that made SQL Server had their side patched up. The parts of MS that usually didn't patch are things like Microsoft Game Studios (Asheron's Call 2 was offline for a couple days due to this)...it's not one big machine like lots of people like to envision it.
                      And it shows how realistic their expectations in large companies are.
                      Microsoft wasn´t even able to have all the companies within its corporate network follow the same security guidelines.
                      But they obviously expect this from other large companies.
                      Or with the words of Bruce Schneier:

                      The paradox was not lost on computer security experts. "Microsoft has been blaming the users, saying they have to keep their patches up to date," said Bruce Schneier, founder and chief technical officer of Counterpane Internet Security Inc., a company that manages security for customers. "On the other hand, their own actions demonstrate how unrealistic that position is."
                      Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
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                      • #12
                        Awesome

                        I wonder if Microsoft hires only MCSEs to administer their servers? If so, how useless can that cert be?
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                        • #13
                          Since a MS thread is already here: http://www.msnbc.com/news/865157.asp?0bl=-0

                          Judge quashes some Microsoft suits

                          Consumer antitrust suits in four states are tossed out

                          WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 — A federal judge Monday granted a motion by Microsoft Corp. to throw out five of the consumer antitrust lawsuits filed against the company in four states. U.S. District Judge J. Frederick Motz struck down lawsuits filed in Connecticut, Kentucky, Maryland and Oklahoma, saying laws in those states do not allow consumers to collect damages from Microsoft unless they purchased software directly from the company.

                          MOST CONSUMERS purchase Microsoft’s Windows operating system and the its other software through retailers or get it pre-installed on the computers they buy.
                          In each of the cases dismissed on Monday, Motz said, state courts have ruled that so-called indirect purchasers cannot collect damages.
                          The cases are part of a slew of class-action lawsuits filed against Microsoft on behalf of consumers in the wake of the government’s landmark antitrust case against the company.
                          The judge is overseeing many of the consumer lawsuits, as well as civil cases filed by Sun Microsystems Inc., AOL Time Warner Inc. unit Netscape Communications, Be Incorporated and Burst.com.
                          In the class-action cases before Motz, the plaintiffs allege Microsoft abused its monopoly power to prevent competition in the market for personal computer operating systems, leveraged its Windows monopoly to obtain monopolies in the markets for word processing and spreadsheet software and used its monopoly positions in these markets to overcharge purchasers of Windows, Word, Excel and Office software.
                          The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, in 2001, reviewed the government suit and agreed that Microsoft had illegally maintained its monopoly in the Windows computer operating system but rejected breaking the company in two to prevent future violations.
                          A settlement of the government suit was endorsed by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly in November, although Massachusetts and West Virginia are appealing.
                          Discuss...
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                          • #14
                            That will be appealed for sure.

                            What I would like to know is the legal basis for such a motion.
                            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                            • #15
                              I'm sure that will go over well with the current government.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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