Revelation. Do You Even Remember the Gulf War ?

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Hueij

Thanks.

No, I mean the one that opened that small bathroom window, entered, walked down the stairs, disarmed a guard, opened the door and exploded...

I meant the ones they DIDN'T show us on CNN.

That is smart

[SlowwHand]

About as smart as you're likely to get.

[Gatekeeper]

I was a sophomore in high school. Needless to say, our government class got *really* interesting during that period, and not in a "liberal" or "conservative" way, just plain interesting.

Gatekeeper

[cavebear]

Of course I remember that war. Heck, I was demonstrating against the Vietnam War in the late 60's, so I've been through some debates about war.

Saddam needs to be removed from power. The question is "for what reason". No people deserve to have to live under a cruel and totalitarian government, and Saddam should be removed by unanimous agreement by the entire UN for that reason alone. In fact, it depresses me that the 1st world powers cannot agree to do it without any further justification.

The weapons of mass destruction argument has yet to be proven, though. While I certainly suspect the claims are true, I accept legitimate arguments that the claim is not yet demonstrated.

But that will be much easier to "prove" after Saddam and his entire regime is ousted. The basic cruelty of his regime is suffiecient cause to act now.

[DRoseDARs]

Ten or eleven or so at the time, but old enough to remember.

[SlowwHand]

Listen to his son talk.
Hussein has made it necessary, and his son his pepetuating the scenario in a manner that will make his daddy proud.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Hueij

Thanks.

No, I mean the one that opened that small bathroom window, entered, walked down the stairs, disarmed a guard, opened the door and exploded...

I meant the ones they DIDN'T show us on CNN.

smart weapons are unpopular... oh well, thats fine with me, back to the alternative. I always thought carpet bombing with Napalm was more effective anyway...

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by cavebear
Of course I remember that war. Heck, I was demonstrating against the Vietnam War in the late 60's, so I've been through some debates about war.

Saddam needs to be removed from power. The question is "for what reason". No people deserve to have to live under a cruel and totalitarian government, and Saddam should be removed by unanimous agreement by the entire UN for that reason alone. In fact, it depresses me that the 1st world powers cannot agree to do it without any further justification.

The weapons of mass destruction argument has yet to be proven, though. While I certainly suspect the claims are true, I accept legitimate arguments that the claim is not yet demonstrated.

But that will be much easier to "prove" after Saddam and his entire regime is ousted. The basic cruelty of his regime is suffiecient cause to act now.

one of the most rational posts on the subject of Iraq/Saddam Ive read in a long time. Kudos cavebear

[The Mad Monk]

Remember it? I still have the tapes I recorded from the news broadcasts.

[JCG]

I remember a TIME foldout that graphically compared the opposing forces...The days when people feared Saddam's paper strength.

[SlowwHand]

I had the first 8 hours on tape, Monk.
The car radio told me it had started, and I called home to get my wife to put in a tape I had ready to record CNN.
Not often does one get the beginning of a war on tape.

She got custody of it, and I think it has soap opera reruns or something on it by now.

[Asher]

The Gulf War is also taught in high school (at least here) for those who didn't remember it.

[Provost Harrison]

cavebear? Since when have genocidal maniacs ever bothered the US regime unless they were a thorn in their side? Were was the US with Idi Amin or Pol Pot?

Call me cynical, but to go to war there is a deeper motivation than humanitarianism in these cases. And I don't think this is any exception.

[SlowwHand]

Christ, Provost. I can see the outcry if the USA attacked Uganda.

[Provost Harrison]

But if it was to remove Amin? Not an issue now, but then?