Axis of Weasel!

[Pekka]

DuncanK, I agree and I disagree. Good thing is that everyone gets good treatment, and that is important. Bad thing is you can't make your way working hard. It is not enough here. Honest good work won't get you anywhere in here. It can get you.. but it's not guaranteed at all. Also, if you have a vision, maybe you want to put up a small business and work for yourself, then you really get to pay to every direction possible. It's not fair for the people who really work hard, you could just as easily sit home and pick up the wellfare checks.
Our system does not encourage hard work at all. Quite the opposite. Working man here is a sucker.

[Chris 62]

So your basically saying Paiktis, that the EU states are acting in the way best suited to their political agenda, and disreguarding the UN agenda, as it's at cross-purposes to their interests.

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Chris 62
As I recall, there was a rigid timetable, and the precondition that Iraq not hinder the process, while providing full disclosure.
Iraq has failed on both of those counts.

What we do has to be dictated by the rules we impose on ourselves: not by Irak's attempts to divide us. (Which they have succeeded in doing)

But what is the effect on Baghdad and the Arab states?
Did not a number of them just yesterday call for Iraq to comply while it still could?
Would they have done so if the US was more concilitory?

I think they would have. Irak would not have complied anyways: Saddam knows that its over. The only thing he can hope for (which is a repetition of 1991) is to drive a wedge between the US and the other countries supporting an attack.
I think the US's best bet would have been to sit through it all with a little smile on its face, not giving anyone a reason to back up. Even praising the fact that they had assembled such a great coalition. (Sounds familiar ?)

[Chris 62]

Well, there is no attack as yet, so that may yet come to pass.

The United States may agree to give the Blix team another month, there is some hinting that the United States is prepared to provide hard intelligence to the search teams.

[Bereta_Eder]

Chris, I don't state an opinion, just saying some things as they are here. After that you make your conclusions freely

I haven't followed up on the UN resolutions so closely. Although I have to say it wouldn't be the 1st time such resolutions are thrown in the basket bin (cough*cyprus*cough).

I only give you as best I can some "insights" as what goes on in the EU on this matter.

You'd be surprised to know that in many countries war on Iraq is 3rd or 4rd or 5th on the newspapers headlines (not a primary issue in any respect - more like a distant matter of interest)

[Pekka]

Well just in from news: EU is pretty much ripped because of what Germany and France has stated. Some want to go to war (more than just UK), some don't. Now we try to form some kind of way to have one opinion about it, and go with it. That won't happen. And we also would like this to go through the UN, so I think it will be debate with Germany and France, try to bend them and go with the program.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Pekka
Well just in from news: EU is pretty much ripped because of what Germany and France has stated.

Any links?

[Chris 62]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Chris, I don't state an opinion, just saying some things as they are here. After that you make your conclusions freely

Well, I'm trying to get a handle on the subject, in a fair and balenced manor.

I haven't followed up on the UN resolutions so closely. Although I have to say it wouldn't be the 1st time such resolutions are thrown in the basket bin (cough*cyprus*cough).

Of that, i have no doubt, but since the United States is adament on this subject, it cannot be dismissed so lightly.

I only give you as best I can some "insights" as what goes on in the EU on this matter.

Your insight on the matter is most welcome and very valuable, unlike other threads, I know you give me your true opinions, and they have much value.

You'd be surprised to know that in many countries war on Iraq is 3rd or 4rd or 5th on the newspapers headlines (not a primary issue in any respect - more like a distant matter of interest)

No, I beileve it's of little import to other nations.
I'm sure South America, for example, pays it no mind.

[Pekka]

No, it was on television.

But I don't know what to make of it. THey're trying to find the same note here, but it's impossible now.
And if EU tries to go to the UN with one solution.. well it's impossible. That's just great.

[Pekka]

Insights of EU right now is that it's ripped in half .

[Bereta_Eder]

Yep the matter of war on Iraq in european press seldom leaves the first page. Especially now since it has entered a new phase of controversy.

The general consensus is that war will happen BTW. But noone is 100% sure.

[Clear Skies]

Any particular reason why Iraq, and why not Saudi Arabia, Syria, or any other country with actual links to al-Qaeda rather than the ephemeral ones Iraq is said to have?

[Pekka]

Clear Skies, I don't know. Perhaps because Iraq is more of a push over, and could be dealt with more easily.
You know, knock out the easy ones so we can concentrate on the more tougher ones.

[chequita guevara]

The war has nothing to do with al-Qaeda or Iraq. Iraq's just a convenient target.

[Chris 62]

Now, now Che, don't be an axis of Weasel.