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  • Some points, though, Che :

    - noone doubts that there is a population that lived in this area before the end of the 19th century, that was defined as arab.
    - I, personally doubt that any palestinian identity separate from the general falah arabic one can be found before the late 20s.
    however, I'd be glad if someone could point it out. A strong separate palestinian identity only forms after the existance of Israel.
    -Nowadays, that such identity exists, It should be treated as one.
    urgh.NSFW

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    • there is a peoples under occupation.
      you must end the occupation.
      simple.

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      • Originally posted by Azazel
        Some points, though, Che :

        - noone doubts that there is a population that lived in this area before the end of the 19th century, that was defined as arab.
        - I, personally doubt that any palestinian identity separate from the general falah arabic one can be found before the late 20s.
        however, I'd be glad if someone could point it out. A strong separate palestinian identity only forms after the existance of Israel.
        -Nowadays, that such identity exists, It should be treated as one.
        Your points are all valid, comrade, especially the last one. Those who wish to say that there is no such thing as a Palestinian ought to do well to remember that before 1948, there was no such thing as an Israeli either.

        Nationalism isn't a natural identity but one that arises due to shared historical experiences. Today there are both Israelis and Palestinians. All sides need to remember that. Neither group has a superior or inferior claim to their shared homeland, and neither group has someplace else to go.


        edit: fixed three typos in last sentence,
        Last edited by chequita guevara; January 23, 2003, 16:38.
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • oh it is? and if the attacks continue?
          urgh.NSFW

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          • then the attacks continue. Although they will be hugely reduced.

            A free palestine will rally the world around Israel while the last shades of terrorist attacks continue and they will be deatl with.

            Israel was and is not the only country which has had terrorist attacks and is not the first country that can make them go away with the right (and very brave) strategy.

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            • Originally posted by Frogger
              Chris, I responded but the site's eating half the stuff I submit right now (getting a whole bunch of 404s)
              It should diet.

              Suffice it to say: on what basis is a person who provides non-military aid to another country a valid military target? On what basis is an Austrian who gives aid and comfort to the enemies of the US a traitor?
              Didn't say military or that he was a traitor, I said he made himself a target.

              That what proclaiming you are an enemy is.

              A silly target, but he did just sign his own death warrant, just for internet tomfoolery, becase if he were now killed, he proclaimed himself an enemy, and thus, fair game.
              I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
              i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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              • Che: hear hear.

                Paiktis: whoa, fantasyland.
                urgh.NSFW

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                • Originally posted by Chris 62
                  Didn't say military or that he was a traitor, I said he made himself a target.

                  That what proclaiming you are an enemy is.

                  A silly target, but he did just sign his own death warrant, just for internet tomfoolery, becase if he were now killed, he proclaimed himself an enemy, and thus, fair game.
                  If you weren´t such a ridiculous louse, I´d consider sueing you for making a death threat.
                  Now, if I ask myself: Who profits from a War against Iraq?, the answer is: Israel. -Prof. Rudolf Burger, Austrian Academy of Arts

                  Free Slobo, lock up George, learn from Kim-Jong-Il.

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                  • The United States have no jurisdiction over Austria. Analphabetic Troglodyte.
                    You really are quite young, aern't you?
                    I'll remember to laugh when you vanish one noight, you can tell your captors all about international law!
                    That's an intersting signature, Analphabetic Troglodyte.
                    When did they start calling you that?

                    No, I wouldn´t break Austrian law. I´m not an Anarchist. And the laws of your ****ty country don´t apply to me. Get a grip.
                    That's international law child, you could be sanctioned anywhere on the planet, you foolish child.
                    Remember the guys driving down the road in Yeman?

                    Ha ha, proclaimed yourself an enemy, and you think your safe!
                    I'm sure those guys in Afghanistan thought that way!
                    I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
                    i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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                    • Azazel, the sustainable (because of US backing) alternative is to live like you do now.

                      Terrorist attack, IDF operation, terrorist attack, IDF operation ad infinitum.

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                      • Originally posted by Comrade Tribune
                        If you weren´t such a ridiculous louse, I´d consider sueing you for making a death threat.
                        Your quite deluded child, I never threatened you in the least.

                        You did this to yourself!
                        I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
                        i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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                        • Originally posted by Chris 62
                          A silly target, but he did just sign his own death warrant, just for internet tomfoolery, becase if he were now killed, he proclaimed himself an enemy, and thus, fair game.
                          Btw, you have just fully justified Bin Laden. The US had proclaimed themselves his enemies, even before 9/11, so they were fair game. Whatever you say.
                          Now, if I ask myself: Who profits from a War against Iraq?, the answer is: Israel. -Prof. Rudolf Burger, Austrian Academy of Arts

                          Free Slobo, lock up George, learn from Kim-Jong-Il.

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                          • I think we have a potential roomy for...well, a fellow Texan who will go unidentified.







                            But his initials are David Floyd.
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • Originally posted by Chris 62
                              I'll remember to laugh when you vanish one noight, you can tell your captors all about international law!

                              That's international law child, you could be sanctioned anywhere on the planet, you foolish child.
                              Remember the guys driving down the road in Yeman?

                              Ha ha, proclaimed yourself an enemy, and you think your safe!
                              I'm sure those guys in Afghanistan thought that way!
                              Thanks for exposing the criminal nature of the United States even better than I can.
                              Now, if I ask myself: Who profits from a War against Iraq?, the answer is: Israel. -Prof. Rudolf Burger, Austrian Academy of Arts

                              Free Slobo, lock up George, learn from Kim-Jong-Il.

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                              • Originally posted by Comrade Tribune
                                Btw, you have just fully justified Bin Laden. The US had proclaimed themselves his enemies, even before 9/11, so they were fair game. Whatever you say.
                                I'm not the government, and if you notice, the US rarely justifies anything, so if you just up and missing, who would be the wiser?

                                You know, there are people monitoring the internet these days, and they now take threats seriously, you seem to have made quite a few.....
                                I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
                                i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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