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Is it feasible to switch from an income-based tax system to a wealth-based tax system

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  • #16
    "If you want to keep most of your property you're gonna have to part with a little bit of it, lest people listen to me and overthrow your asses. "

    Sorry, but nobody takes your politics seriously.
    "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

    "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
      Sorry, but nobody takes your politics seriously.
      Things change, my friend, things change.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #18
        I agree with Che. The poorest people have nothing to lose, and everything to gain, so they turn to crime. If you have a very large poor population, they will incite a revolution, and then your precious property will go up in flames, or get stolen and the poor people will install a rule of the proletariat, and then the old rich will lose everything.

        "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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        • #19
          Edit: silly X-post

          I wonder how the world goes from now on. Where can one find any growth in economy in the developed world at all?
          Last edited by Az; January 20, 2003, 15:25.
          urgh.NSFW

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          • #20
            The depreciation of your underwear, and value of your pencil could be ignored under the 'matireality' convention
            And yes, i know i spelt it wrong dammit ...
            Up The Millers

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            • #21
              There will never be such a thing as a fair tax-system. The economic reality and the morals of man is to complex for that. Wealth is taxed in Sweden, 0,15% of monetary assets above 25000 SEK, that's around 2500. Or something like that, it's not a big deal for me.

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              • #22
                My effective tax rate on my income for last year was 8.06%. What's all the kvetching about?
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • #23
                  What makes anyone think that someone who makes (some arbitrary figure likw 140,000) is part of the old rich. My grandfather was a fisherman and labourer . My father was the only one of his siblings to go to university and he became a schoolteacher--

                  I worked an outside job (stockboy, diswasher, pasta cook) almost the whole time I was in university and now have almost paid out all my student loans. . . So don't give me any crap about old money or growing up rich --


                  Also I have no problem trying to help out the poor and unfortunant -- Remember, I live in Canada with a much better social safety net than in the US . But working in the jobs I did I saw a LOT of abuse of the social safety net. Couple this with government excess in follies like a one billion dollar gun registry and various boondoggles and EXCUSE ME if I don't like my taxes so high.
                  You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                    Because a system of duties and licensing would leave society ill equipped to deal with the real world. Besides, starving people tend to have very little respect for property rights and tend to establish levelling governments. If you want to keep most of your property you're gonna have to part with a little bit of it, lest people listen to me and overthrow your asses.
                    The world did basically work on duties prior to WW1.

                    Parting with a little bit is to keep your property is why
                    there is welfare, UI, and police as a function of government. Don't want thousands of regular people
                    committing "crimes" like in the 20s/30's. The government
                    simply can't control that many regular people.

                    I'm not disagreeing than greater wealth should pay
                    more, just on how to do so in a simpler, less corruptable
                    manner.

                    Oh, If you overthrow us, A Stalin is waiting with an ice pick. Revolutions rarely ever result in an improvement,
                    more often they result in Terror and secret police.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ozz
                      The world did basically work on duties prior to WW1.


                      Yeah, but us commies weren't as powerful before WWI. Once we were a movement that had to be taken seriously, you needed to build up the state to thwart us.

                      Oh, If you overthrow us, A Stalin is waiting with an ice pick. Revolutions rarely ever result in an improvement, more often they result in Terror and secret police.


                      Stalin's dead hand had finally been thrown off the movement. It's unlikely that any future revolutions will be deformed by these traitors to socialism.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Flubber
                        I did I saw a LOT of abuse of the social safety net. Couple this with government excess in follies like a one billion dollar gun registry and various boondoggles and EXCUSE ME if I don't like my taxes so high.
                        Get rid half of the Government waste and corruption and
                        taxes would drop so much that you wouldn't care about
                        some minimum wager abusing an extra $50 to buy a pair of shoes.

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                        • #27
                          the American revolution seems to have worked reasonably well...
                          "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by chegitz guevara Stalin's dead hand had finally been thrown off the movement. It's unlikely that any future revolutions will be deformed by these traitors to socialism.
                            A Stalin, or a Rosepierre, or a Napolean, .............. and on and on and on.

                            Their has been how many revolutions that didn't result
                            in a bloodbath and long term state terror?

                            1. Cromwell
                            2. The USA
                            3.

                            Hell, Couldn't even think of 3.

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                            • #29
                              "Stalin's dead hand had finally been thrown off the movement. It's unlikely that any future revolutions will be deformed by these traitors to socialism."



                              Oppression is inherent in the Communist system!

                              (Now, doesn't that make a fine slogan? )

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                              • #30
                                3. India
                                4. Taiwan
                                "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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