Anti-war protesters, answer me this!

[The diplomat]

I hear the anti-war protesters say that they just want world peace and and an end to violence and conflict.

If this is true, how come they never have big protest to urge North Korea to halt its threats and nuke programs? Surely North Korea is threatening world peace. If the protesters want peace, how come they never protest against Saddam who has hurt peace, or Clinton who bombed Serbia?

How come they only bash the US and Israel?

I think it is pretty clear that these anti-war protests are nor really about iraq or world peace. The groups sponsoring these protests are mostly ultra-left who hate Bush and see this as an opportunity to bash the US. They don't care about world peace!

[Nubclear]

Re: Anti-war protesters, answer me this!

Originally posted by The diplomat
urge North Korea to halt its threats

Which were made in light of the US stance that it will never negotiate (though thats beginning to crack.)

and nuke programs?

Every nation will and have the right to have nukes.

against Saddam who has hurt peace,

Because Saddam wont budge no matter what the protestors say. Though I should point out many people have condmened him.

or Clinton who bombed Serbia?

Already protested.

They don't care about world peace!

A few dont care about world peace. But most do. Plus, Iraq right now is the hot issue. It owuld be incredibly stupid to "protest" Iraq invading Kuwait unless he actually does it again.

[Faboba]

Perhaps because they despise hypocrisy.

I'd be in favour of the US bombing Iraq if Bush came out and said;

"I want to bomb Iraq because **** Cheney says it's a good idea."

And then for **** Cheney to explain that it will greatly benifit the US economy ( and consequently, to a lesser extent the rest of the western world ) if they were to do so because of the extra jobs that could be created in the arms industry and then the money which could be made from selling arms to Iraq after all their current ones are destroyed as happened after all previous attacks.

The problem with the 'war on Iraq' is the reasons presented for it aren't logical. They need to properly explain the financial ( and true ) motive for the attack before it can be supported by intelligent people.

[Faboba]

Originally posted by Faboba

**** Cheney

I can't say ****? It's the guy's name for **** sake!

[reds4ever]

funny, Richard Cheney seems perfectly acceptable!

with the nukes it's a case of 'wev'e got them, but you arn't allowed too', is it sensible for NK to have nukes, no, but then again is it sensible for any country to have nukes?

[tandeetaylor]

No, **** Cheney is fine.

[Faboba]

It can lead to some confusion as to what four letter word I'm using. For instance, you wouldn't know if I was simply saying '**** Cheney' or '**** Cheney!'

That said... **** **** Cheney!

[Worthingtons]

Come on guys, if you has some small nation with several Oil resources, that were getting all cocky, and you were having to trade with some other nation for looads fo gold per turn, you'd send you're carriers over there right away

[Faboba]

Good point. Any passifist leanings within me dissolve the second I have power when I become a harsh, tyrannical despot bent on world conquest with all the scruples of a Machievellian Prince. If I was in command of America I would take control of the press, declare martial law, rid myself of democracy, begin massive armament and take over Iraq, Japan, the UK, Mexico and Cuba.

All things considered... Bush isn't all that warmongering.

[Boris Godunov]

Re: Anti-war protesters, answer me this!

Originally posted by The diplomat
I hear the anti-war protesters say that they just want world peace and and an end to violence and conflict.

If this is true, how come they never have big protest to urge North Korea to halt its threats and nuke programs? Surely North Korea is threatening world peace. If the protesters want peace, how come they never protest against Saddam who has hurt peace

Maybe because they're smart enough to realize that civil protests in a foreign nation, and one that is viewed by these countries as an antagonistic enemy, would do jack squat to influence these dictators half a world away?

In a democracy, civil protests have, historically, been able to alter the course of events, since democratic leaders are somewhat beholding to the people. Why should a foreign dictator care about protests here? Has a civil protest here ever made a damn bit of difference to a foreign despot?

What a ludicrous question.

[orange]

worst troll ever

[Thrawn05]

I remember somthing a few weeks ago that the group ANSWER is funded by some US pro communist group.

Any of your friends Tassadar5000?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by orange
worst troll ever

I agree. I've seen much better even from Speer.

[Faboba]

Why are so many so harshly prejudiced against communists? Anyone who has read Marx' manifesto has to admit the quality of the argument and the veracity of the observations even if the conclusion is a little... irrational.

[Az]

I agree, sort of.

The groups that act against war on Iraq, Israel in general, etc., almost never even say anything about places like the Sudan, where scores of people are killed all the time. I don't think that this is due to the fact that there is no chance to change in policy there. I think is that there are some interest groups, and there is a large movement of people that play along with a certain act, whether they conciously do it, or just don't have any higher brain functions of their own. It's not like they're chose to go to the demonstration against the US position because they know they have a shot at changing policy. In entire forums, BBs, pages on the web there is hardly any mention of other conflicts at all.

These of course should be separated from the "it's none of our bussiness" group.