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  • #16
    How about we use the Prison inmates to work in the feilds? Oh wait, that would put ILLEGAL aliens out of work.

    I'm still going to buy a Dell when the time comes.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by GP


      Are you stupid?
      No but obviously you are. Do you actually have anything constructive to say or are you just pathetically trying to get people to notice you?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Zkribbler
        Isn't that one of the three international nonos? No child labor, no slave labor and no prison labor? I know we got into a bit of a tiff with China for shipping us goods made by their prisoners.
        Finally someone who sees the point I'm trying to make! I guess it's OK for American multi-nationals to engage in these kinds of practices, but no one else is allowed to.

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        • #19
          No minimum wage problem:

          Amendment XIII

          Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

          Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

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          • #20
            But still, you have not addressed why you claimed that the prisoners get paid nothing and why you said the tax-payer pays.

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            • #21
              Don't have a problem with this morally, but as Che pointed out, I'd rather they were giving these jobs as real jobs to non-convicts who need them. The needs of the prisoners are provided for already.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by MattHiggs
                But still, you have not addressed why you claimed that the prisoners get paid nothing and why you said the tax-payer pays.
                I'm operating on a logical assumption. Here in Canada, inmates might get paid $5 per day for their labours. Certainly not minimum wage. And the taxpayers pay for their food, their lodging etc. etc. Now maybe the California penal system is more generous, though I doubt it.

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                • #23
                  1. Prison work is paid.
                  2. Prison work of this nature is, IIRC, not compulsory.

                  Neither of the above need to be the case, under the U.S. Constitution.
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                  • #24
                    hopefully this will make dells cheaper
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                    • #25
                      Most prisoners have restitution to pay and this program makes that a more likely proposition. So I support it for the help it provides to the victims.
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                      • #26
                        Willem this is a computer recycling program. Most people I know just toss their old stuff into the trash. But good on Dell for taking the initiative to provide consumers with a cost-effective way of recycling their obsolete junk.

                        The prison guys are the ones making this recycling program possible and cost effective. I think if it wasn't for them, Dell wouldn't have a formal recycling program in place.

                        This is a good thing.
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #27
                          I got no problem with this. If prisoners want to make some money, more power to 'em.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                          • #28
                            too late.. I own a Dell Inspiron 8200 already...

                            but seriously dont but Dell computers. Not because of some prison labout bullcrap. Their computer.... SUCKS.

                            then again, you can choose even more suckier brands... eh, choose your poison wisely guys.
                            :-p

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                            • #29
                              so?

                              give them something to do when they aren't having sex with each other.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Willem


                                I'm operating on a logical assumption. Here in Canada, inmates might get paid $5 per day for their labours. Certainly not minimum wage. And the taxpayers pay for their food, their lodging etc. etc. Now maybe the California penal system is more generous, though I doubt it.
                                The taxpayers would be paying the for food and lodging whether the prisoners are working or not.

                                Recycling tends to be something of a marginal activity in terms of profits, and anti-recyclers like P J O'Rourke constantly point out how costly it is. Maybe if it weren't for the prison labour these parts wouldn't be recycled at all? Meaning, of course, that an environmentally-beneficial outcome is reached by this labour.
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