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  • #61
    Y'know, this latest exchange is a good example why I prefer not to post too much on Poly anymore. It's become the main office of Trolls R Us.
    "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
    - Lone Star

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Sir Ralph


      It was a counter troll, no less and no more. But it contains a grain of truth, considering the breathtaking speed your president turns his last allies in enemies and raises anti-americanism everywhere. This generation has nothing to fear, but if your country continues with its present foreign policy, the next generation will see the US being hated throughout the world. That is not a nice feeling, I assure you. I know it, I'm a German.
      Cry me a river, Hun. You needed to be smacked down...and we were happy to do it.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Arrian


        Now, SR, despite being trolled first, that was a nasty thing to say.

        -Arrian
        I think I hit a lot harder and more below the belt than he did. Just want to show skull-head that I can fight meaner and dirtier than him.

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        • #64
          Ebola is bad, but as has been said is in general not airborne. If someone sequences the Reston and the Zaire strains, finds out the genetic differences between them, then compares the predictive genes/transmembrane region etc. Then start mixing and matching genes and testing on monkeys/humans (for the unscrupulous dictator). It is fairly tricky no doubt (especially in a Cat4 suit, I did some work in a Cat3 and it was right royal pain the arse), but if you don't really care if your researchers get infected too, it is possible, especially for a fairly small virus like Ebola.

          I still think that weaponised smallpox would be worse than Ebola.

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          • #65
            GP - It's like you just saw someone pissing on the sidewalk, and in return you take a crap on that same sidewalk. Us onlookers and passersby would prefer you made your point in some other way.
            "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
            - Lone Star

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Jaakko
              GP - It's like you just saw someone pissing on the sidewalk, and in return you take a crap on that same sidewalk. Us onlookers and passersby would prefer you made your point in some other way.


              I like trolls, it makes Poly OT what it is

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              • #67
                Looney bin? Moron depository?
                "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
                - Lone Star

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                • #68
                  Something along those lines, yeah. Always good for a laugh as long as you pick the right thread (anything US vs EU is good, as are the threads started by the notorious trolls).

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by GP
                    I am from Reston. I have read THE HOT ZONE several times and have talked to CDC epidemiologists about it.
                    I myself will be a bit skeptical as quoting a popular book as evidence, particularly when the author is not an expert in the field.

                    Originally posted by GP
                    3. The Hot Zone book discusses one experience of airborne transmission of Zaire prior to Reston. In monkeys. But it also discusses several times when the disease was NOT transmitted by air. Including one where a doctor worked in intimate contact with fluids of Ebola victims and was not infected. It appears that there is some variability of Zaire. Or at lest we don't really know the whole story on it.
                    Here's what the CDC says on the matter:

                    While all Ebola virus species have displayed the ability to be spread through airborne particles (aerosols) under research conditions, this type of spread has not been documented among humans in a real-world setting, such as a hospital or household.
                    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by GP
                      Read THE COBRA EVENT. The book was written in 1998 and is almost eery in its predictions. Prior to 911, you could say that Preston was exaggerating. After the anthrax episodes and such the fictional book seems less implausible.
                      What does that have to do with the genetics of a virus?
                      (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                      (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                      (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Jaakko
                        Y'know, this latest exchange is a good example why I prefer not to post too much on Poly anymore. It's become the main office of Trolls R Us.
                        Your avatar looks pretty messed up.

                        Anyway, trolls have always been around, you can't avoid them. I reckon it would be best just to laugh at them.
                        (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                        (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                        (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Jaakko
                          GP - It's like you just saw someone pissing on the sidewalk, and in return you take a crap on that same sidewalk. Us onlookers and passersby would prefer you made your point in some other way.
                          ok.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                            What does that have to do with the genetics of a virus?
                            Umm...don't get all berz on me.

                            Short anwer, not much. It's more about the scenario of a modified virus. How feasible to do and the effects with releasing it. It's fiction, so it's not like reading an essay. But it will have a few interesting things that make you think.

                            BTW, to the other dudes point. The disease that the author used was weaponized smallpox.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                              I myself will be a bit skeptical as quoting a popular book as evidence, particularly when the author is not an expert in the field.

                              Granted. I guess we could read the peer-reviewd literature. There should be some info about Reston in there.

                              Here's what the CDC says on the matter:

                              [/QUOTE]

                              agreed. Although, Reston certainly may have been airborne in its spread. We don't know. The keepers could have also gotten monkey bites. (But its not a hospital and not controlled anyway.) And my example with monkey airborne transmission WAS in a lab. But was not humans, obviously.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by GP


                                I think I hit a lot harder and more below the belt than he did. Just want to show skull-head that I can fight meaner and dirtier than him.
                                Ah, so you were going for overkill. I thought so. But it was ugly. Quite similar to a pile of dog**** on the sidewalk, actually.

                                -Arrian
                                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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