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  • #31
    alright... here goes my venting on vegetarianism and animal rights activism... which I consider two closely related topics:

    Generally, I think that eating anything is fine in moderation. Too much of anything can and probably will be harmful.
    Most health problems related to eating habits are a result of an unbalanced diet - too much of one thing, and not enough of another.
    Obviously meats provide a great source of protein. And I don't know the medical reasoning behind it (but I think its related to the type of proteins found in meats), but do others notice the overall complexion of true die-hard vegetarians is simply pale?
    I view going vegetarian as an extreme, and ironically a health risk.

    As far as the treatment of cows go... obviously anything to increase the living conditions is good... but it will be balanced against cost. In my view they "are just cows."

    Probably the most humorous occurance with this issue however are those that speak for the rights of the cows as their reason for going vegetarian. Speak out for the cows, but use your shampoos and cosmetics that use animals for testing, relax in your leather sofas - apply those special oils extracted for various animals to your stylish leather seats in your car and your leather jacket, etc., etc.... hipocrits. As I said before... they are just animals. Some animals we use to make everyday things - and that is their purpose as far as I am concerned.

    The one issue I am equally conerned about is the pollution associated with the larger farms where livestock for butchering are raised. More research into limiting this, and its full impact on the environment need to be done - without pressure from any political activists.

    Finally - some "vegetarians" will still eat fish. Do people think of fish as lesser animals or are the conditions in fisheries supremely better than that of cows for the fish? Maybe its just because fisheries don't pollute in the same way... And the other animals that are caught with mass fishing exercises in the oceans, what about them? Bah - perhaps its just because popular opinion is that the meat of fish is particularly healthy. I am not saying it isn't - but how many food studies have new results over the years about how much they impact your diet and how? Once again... eat it in moderation.

    I know numerous people that are vegetarians. I've been to lunches and such with these individuals - and frankly - I feel like I am being judged by each and every one of them for enjoying my ham or turkey sandwich, etc. The conversation usually begin with them either explaining the amount of fats in some meat I am eating, or the wonderful nutritional value of only eating vegetarian has... They'll explain that, and then sya something like: "Take your ham sandwich for example..." The conversation is usually unavoidable at a lunch with a vegetarian as well - as they get real specific with their meal order with the waiter - and then they feel the need to explain to everyone else in the group their reasoning.

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    • #32
      My thoughts about vegetarianism and vege-food:

      Once I dated a girl who was a vege like Osweld (eats fish). Going to a restaurant sometimes could be a problem, because she would start picking on me if I ate something else than vegetables or fish. So I could say she was "forcing her wievs" in a mild way. And that was a bit annoying.

      Vege-food can sometimes taste like water, but usually it is quite delicious. At the cafeteria of my office I can pick one of these: meat-meal, soup-meal, vege-meal or special salad. I must say I very often choose the vege-meal, because they are generally always edible
      I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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      • #33
        I don't have anything against people that think that vegetarianism is good for their health. I have no love for the damn animal liberationists, though. I wouldn't force feed them meat or anything ( ) but I think that they're in the wrong, and if they dare say something to me, I'll be very ****ing pissed off.
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #34
          And how about the way they treat those poor, defenseless plants? Left all alone burried in the dirt, with no protection from th elements, with people dropping manure on them, and then, in the prime of their lives, murderers with sharp tools come along and cut their fragile little bodies to pieces. It's inhuman!


          Oh, and has anyone thought to ask the cows what they want? Maybe they would like furniture, air conditioning and cable tv. Would that qualify as decent living conditions?

          Seriously, though, I do agree with what people said about growth hormones and antibiotics. I think this is one case where more doesn't mean better. We could all benefit if there was less, healthier meat on the market. And when I say healthy I don't mean low-fat, but coming from a healthy animal.
          The monkeys are listening.

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          • #35
            And how about the way they treat those poor, defenseless plants? Left all alone burried in the dirt, with no protection from th elements, with people dropping manure on them, and then, in the prime of their lives, murderers with sharp tools come along and cut their fragile little bodies to pieces. It's inhuman!
            I've heard similar stuff many, many, many, many times.
            My answer is always the same: Plants don't have brains.

            And when I say healthy I don't mean low-fat, but coming from a healthy animal.


            Vege-food can sometimes taste like water, but usually it is quite delicious.
            Water IS delicious (at least in Finland... )

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            • #36
              About vegetarism.

              It's far from healthy to children. There are several young girls (ages 9-14), who try to be vegetarists. Girl at that age rarely eats sufficiently. And without enough protein & fat (which you get from meat products easily), those girls tend to become undernourished. And that's not good thing during teenagehood...
              I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by aaglo
                About vegetarism.

                It's far from healthy to children. There are several young girls (ages 9-14), who try to be vegetarists. Girl at that age rarely eats sufficiently. And without enough protein & fat (which you get from meat products easily), those girls tend to become undernourished. And that's not good thing during teenagehood...
                Maybe they can get jobs as models Providing they still can stand that is.
                får jag köpa din syster? tre kameler för din syster!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Tuomerehu

                  I've heard similar stuff many, many, many, many times.
                  My answer is always the same: Plants don't have brains.

                  I meant that as a joke.

                  And to think I just sold my flamethrower!
                  The monkeys are listening.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by aaglo
                    About vegetarism.

                    It's far from healthy to children. There are several young girls (ages 9-14), who try to be vegetarists. Girl at that age rarely eats sufficiently. And without enough protein & fat (which you get from meat products easily), those girls tend to become undernourished. And that's not good thing during teenagehood...

                    It can be healthy, but developing children and pregnant women would need to take special care in what they eat, and make sure they have a balanced diet. Same goes for non-vegetarians, too. Alot of kids are obese these days from eating so much fastfood.
                    Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

                    Do It Ourselves

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                    • #40
                      Osweld is right. It depends. I support eating meat because I like it and so do many other people.
                      urgh.NSFW

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                      • #41
                        Alot of kids are obese these days from eating so much fastfood.

                        And candy. And potatoe chips (or did someone call them "crisps").

                        Oh, sorry, In the previous post I meant "vegans" (not people-from-vega, but people-who-eat-only-plant-products). So no dairyproducts.
                        I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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                        • #42
                          no cheese?!?!?! thats insanity!
                          "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                          'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                          • #43
                            Yep, IMHO vegans are insane.
                            I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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                            • #44
                              I don't care about health vegans ( if they really eat healthy ). What bothers me are the animal liberationist types. (see avatar: from the PETA kids' site. do you think that this is an appropriate pic for kids? )
                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • #45
                                Hehe... your avatar looks like from a Mad-cartoon . Ronald making burgers...
                                I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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