"In-your-face Vegetarians" (My first rant!)

[Jac de Molay]

"Not enough protein" is a myth. The human body requires very little protein to live on. If anything, most people eat way too protein, which damages the kidneys and gastro-intestinal tract. You can also get plenty of protein from non-meat sources.

I would like to be a complete vegetarian, but my metabolism burns so fast, I almost feel the need to eat heavy carbs and meat so I don't get hungry an hour later.

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Alot of kids are obese these days from eating so much fastfood.

Alot of kids are these days ignorant pleibiji-morons which should be converted to energy via combustion.

"Not enough protein" is a myth. The human body requires very little protein to live on. If anything, most people eat way too protein, which damages the kidneys and gastro-intestinal tract. You can also get plenty of protein from non-meat sources.

Hmm, I partly agree.
Veggies should check that they get enough Fe.

[Traianvs]

Fe as in iron??

I live on non-meaty substances and I NEVER, omg never eat tofu or fake meat and stuff, it's just plain disgusting... I even wonder if it's edible or not

Btw I don't think vegetarians talking what's so good about veggie and what's bad about meat is necessarily imposing their views on you...

It's not like you are forced to quit meat, some just try to convince you.. I've never seen any veggie force their views on anyone as well!

[monolith94]

I've certainly met vegetarians who were condescending and patronizing, but never any who were evangelistic!

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Fe as in iron??

Yeah, wasn't sure about the correct term (I know that fe is iron, but... erm)

omg never eat tofu or fake meat and stuff, it's just plain disgusting... I even wonder if it's edible or not

Genetically edited soybeans can be pretty good in replacing meat if they're made properly.
And they're 4-5 times cheaper (at least here)

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
(then again North East college campuses have many PETA members).

I know Rutger's bad, but didn't know it's that bad.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Tuomerehu
Genetically edited soybeans can be pretty good in replacing meat if they're made properly.
And they're 4-5 times cheaper (at least here)

What the hell? GM? Who needs it?

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EDIT:
/me thinks *

[Traianvs]

why do you need genetically soybeans with the taste of meat...i mean i have tried some of that veggie meat and.. not for me !

regular soya in a wok or sometihng, now that's fine tasty food

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by aaglo
Oh, sorry, In the previous post I meant "vegans" (not people-from-vega, but people-who-eat-only-plant-products). So no dairyproducts.

So did I.

A more acurate term for vegans would be that they eat nothing that is derived from an animal, and this typicaly expanded into everything else they do - no leather or other animal by-products. (which can be very hard to achieve in this society)



There is absolutely no health risk with a vegetarian diet, and in many ways it is alot healthier - certainly more so then the "mostly meat" diet common in western societies, anyways. The only real health risk I have heard of is with a pure vegan diet, and a lack of vitamin B12 - I do not know much about this and have been meaning learn more about it, though. Regardless, B12 is often supplimented in store-bought vegan food, like soy milk or (yech) veggieburgers.



By the way, Tofu isn't a meat substitue on it's own, in it's regular state it's quite a unique food and can be a really good adition to stir-fries. I can't imagine genetically modified soy foods being too popular among Vegans, though.

[GePap]

Having known many vegetarians, I agree with Osweld that the reaction of Omnivores to vegetarians is usually more annoying than the other way around, but you do sometimes get Vegetarians who are vegeterian for ideological reasons that can be a graitng as any ideologue, when their issue comes up.

As for vegetarian cooking, its fine: I ahe had many very delicious dishes, and hell, Pasta with a good Marinara sauce is vegetarian, isn't it? as are french fries fried in vegetable oils.

But some branches of vegetarianism, such as full vegans strange, as it does force you to make various decisions to maintain a good diet, such as taking lots of supplements (why is pill popping better). And then there are the Frutarian weirdos (individuals who will only eat things such asripe fruits ready for picking): how do they ever find anyitng to eat?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I can't believe no-one's piled into this yet. You're getting slow....

Originally posted by Osweld

Both ethical and poltical.

The conditions in factory farms are immensely inhumane, and aside from being torturous to the animals the conditions are also a breeding ground for diseases in meat. Factory farms are what has turn un-cooked meat into a biohazard.

It can be, which is why ethical farming movements and the organic meat industry deserve respect.

Factory farms also cause an immense amount of pollution, the animal waste produced from cattle greatly excedes the amount produced by humans (and I do mean greatly - I have read estimates that are as much as 130 times the amount of humans for the USA) this all goes into the enviroment untreated, and has been known to kill off all the aquatic life in places which it is dumped.

Now you're on shaky ground. Do you think arable farming is clean in comparison? The industry that produces the vegetarian food you consume is a horrific polluter.
Careless disposal of animal waste can upset the biological balance of rivers, but that's kid's stuff compared to careless disposal of herbicides, fungicides and pesticides. Read some Carl Hiaasen and see what it's doing around the Everglades.

The anti-biotics and growth hormones that are used so that the animals can live in such atracious conditions bring around "super germs" that are resistent to drugs. These drugs are also in animal waste and run-off, and contaminate the enviroment and possibly even our drinking water.

Yup. Hence the need for investment into organic meat farming.

Meat farming is immensely inefficient. 40 percent of the total world's grain harvest goes to feeding cattle, but a single hamburger is equal to ten loaves of bread, and the grazing land needed for free-range animals can bring more yield with crops. Much of the grain used to feed the cattle are imported from places where people are too poor to afford food, and are starving to death. It is estimated that if everyone adopted a vegetarian diet, our current food production would be enough to sustain a population of 10 billion people.

Quite right. Modern arable farming is more efficient than modern meat farming when it comes to churning out calories per acre. However I challenge you to name an industry that is more devastating to the environment than moden arable farming. The only one I can think of is open-cast mining

Worker's conditions are almost as bad as the animal's. Workers in slaughter houses have some of the most dangerous jobs in the world, succumb to all sorts of injuries. Many of them (in the USA, atleast) are illegal immigrants that are loured to the job with foreign advertisements and can be easily exploited.

Good attitude, but are you going to do anything about it? Like protest for better wages for slaughterhouse workers, and buy meat from ethical slaughterhouses? Or was this section just a bit of a dry-****?

I'm human. I'm designed to include meat in my diet. I'll stick to my blueprint.

The best quote I've ever seen on vegetarianisn came from Foetus, an occasional poster here and at CG. He described it as "society's concession to the morally haunted".

[Boris Godunov]

[SIZE=1] Originally posted by Lazarus and the The best quote I've ever seen on vegetarianisn came from Foetus, an occasional poster here and at CG. He described it as "society's concession to the morally haunted".

Except most vegetarians are so for health and diet reasons, not moral ones.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

In that case, here's a newsflash for veggies.

"You're all going to die."

[Imran Siddiqui]

I never have, and neither has anyone I know. Your experiences aren't universal, ya know.

Seeing as he basically asserted that the 'in-your-face Vegetarians' do not exist (since he'd never seen one), perhaps you should direct your universality comment to Oswald.

Pointing out a experience that contradicts a universal doesn't make it a universal itself.

And yes, your reading comprehension is suspect. DD's intention was clear .