We have (mostly) failed... :(

[Az]

i dont think you could win a war against against all the arab nations combined against you. if your efforts against terrorism are any indication of how you would defend yourselves the battle is already lost.

The indepence war, the 67' war, the 73' war.

[MRT144]

those were conventional wars though, and currently you arent fighting an unconventional war, and i presume that in the future you wont be doing so.

but lets say you did fight a conventional war. you would be outnumbered and surrounded...you do have the technological advantage...and maybe homefield advantage.

but if the arab countries have any brains about them, they will fund terrorists to lower the morale of your people to the point of where they will give up being a bunch of hardasses and concede defeat, and hopefully give the palestinians a full homeland. maybe then we can pull out of this **** grinding whore known as the Middle East, and not plant our bad seeds in her any longer.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Eli

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030115-035849-6156r

hi ,



we shall no more sit around and wait until something happens, ......

but what a BS story , if only it where true , .....

have a nice day

[DanielXY]

Yeah lets solve it like the Mafia would

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Azazel
yes, trajanus, of course, the Belgian army has never committed any crimes.

http://www.cpa.org.au/garchve5/1078lum.html

I said in the recent past... that is like ages ago, like another era!!
It's the same thing as: omfg you stupid euros you should worship america cos they saved you from hitler and the commies!

while that may be true, that doesn't mean that the situation right now is identical...

there are many examples known in history where a state frees another state, but only 30 years later invades that particular state it invaded ... i reckon 40-50 years is enough, that's nearly 2 generations ago or something...



I found this particularly funny

Last year, the US Government released archive material related to the
Kennedy assassination that included an interview with the White House
minute-taker under the Eisenhower administration, Robert Johnson.

In a meeting held with security advisers in August 1960, only two months
after Congo achieved its formal independence from Belgium, Eisenhower
ordered the CIA to "eliminate" Lumumba, according to Johnson's account.

"There was a stunned silence for about 15 seconds and the meeting
continued", Johnson recalled.

The CIA's director, Allen Dulles, referred to the Congolese leader as a
"mad dog".

but there's no denial that we have commited some vicious crimes, our government that is (just like every other government at the time btw).

[Jac de Molay]

Having Israel is a very big american interest. We're the by far the most stable supporter of US policies in the region and could always be trusted upon if SHTF for america.

And the root cause of sh*t hitting the fan for america? Why, of course, our unconditional support for Israel!

My tax dollars going to support an artificial, pseudo-democratic, brutally violent state............

[Traianvs]

So you mean the United States then?