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  • #16
    Either probably.
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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    • #17
      Well, if by the Humans we could us you in two ways: 1) As a peace offering to the machine overlords "Please accept this gift as a gesture of goodwill..." or 2) We could at least us you as cooking or heating oil in our underground caverns as we rebuild a new offensive to destroy our mechanical enemies...
      The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

      The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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      • #18
        The only way machines could take over is if humans actually wanted them to. It will always be the case that a machine is only capable of acting or responding in a manner pre-programmed into it. There is no such thing as AI, just larger memory for "if this then that" stimulus response behavior.
        "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
        "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
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        • #19
          they already have
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          You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

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          • #20
            Contrary to popular belief, EMP weapons would only be effective against electronic components which rely on magnetic motors or components. An EM Pulse demagnetizes these components, they would not make all electronic circuits useless. Although, they would disrupt magnetic data storage devices.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Kontiki
              The only way machines could take over is if humans actually wanted them to. It will always be the case that a machine is only capable of acting or responding in a manner pre-programmed into it. There is no such thing as AI, just larger memory for "if this then that" stimulus response behavior.
              That's your belief... all life simply responds to stimuli in its environment. Would a computer AI not be the same? Our genetic code is our data program. Who's to say a programmed AI with the potential to grow beyond its original programming does not have a sentient AI?
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #22
                Why all the fear of "robo"s trying to take over the "orgo"s?

                Judging by what history has shown us, it is most likely that robots probably dont even have to try wiping us off, since likelihood of us fightin each other with help of robots are far likely than united human confederation struggling to survive under evil artifical plot to rid the world of inferior human beings....
                :-p

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Demerzel
                  being a cyborg would be cool if you got to use all the lethal weaponry upgrades with no fear of prosecution

                  i could do with a cyborg keep me awake part right now

                  * Demerzel so tired
                  You guys need girl friends very, very much!
                  "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Calc II
                    Why all the fear of "robo"s trying to take over the "orgo"s?

                    Judging by what history has shown us, it is most likely that robots probably dont even have to try wiping us off, since likelihood of us fightin each other with help of robots are far likely than united human confederation struggling to survive under evil artifical plot to rid the world of inferior human beings....
                    Part of the evolution of animal life was the development of instinctual behavior. At the lower levels this type of behavior tends to be rigid. Think of the dance the bee does to communicate the location of flowers to its hive mates as an example. In higher animals instinctual behavior becomes progressively more flexible and incorporates more learned behavior. Eventually instinct evolves into what we call "drives" today. So long as we do not program robots to have this kind of behavior they will remain subserviant.
                    "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                    • #25
                      I cant wait for T3 and Matrix: Reloaded this summer
                      "I bet Ikarus eats his own spunk..."
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Kramerman
                        I cant wait for T3 and Matrix: Reloaded this summer
                        There are actually two Matrix sequels coming out this year!
                        "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sava

                          That's your belief... all life simply responds to stimuli in its environment. Would a computer AI not be the same? Our genetic code is our data program. Who's to say a programmed AI with the potential to grow beyond its original programming does not have a sentient AI?
                          Well, Dr. Strangelove summed it up pretty well, but to further it:

                          Yes, we respond to stimuli in the environment. The difference is that a computer can only respond to what's programmed into it with what's programmed into it. There is no innate ability to learn and adapt, and if one is programmed in, it always has whatever limits the programmer puts on it.
                          "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                          "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
                          "I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sava
                            Contrary to popular belief, EMP weapons would only be effective against electronic components which rely on magnetic motors or components. An EM Pulse demagnetizes these components, they would not make all electronic circuits useless. Although, they would disrupt magnetic data storage devices.
                            Do you know anything about electronics? An EMP affects anything that is capable of carrying a current. If an electrical system is off it's less likely to be affected, but that is it.

                            ACK!
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                            • #29
                              The loss of current would be temporary. The actual copper wiring in the electrical circuitry would still be capable of carrying current. Any electrical components that were turned off, and contained no magnetic components; would be unaffected by an EMP.
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sava
                                The loss of current would be temporary. The actual copper wiring in the electrical circuitry would still be capable of carrying current. Any electrical components that were turned off, and contained no magnetic components; would be unaffected by an EMP.
                                But an EMP would also induce a voltage across that wire that may be to great for it to handle.

                                ACK!
                                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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