It could be a corruption of Wutang.
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(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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The spanish conquistadors may have brought that statue to the new world...
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Originally posted by Berzerker
According to Piri Re'is, Colombus had a copy of that map. That might explain why Colombus under estimated the circumference of the world by so much when the Greeks had already measured it with sufficient accuracy. The map shows the Caribbean without identifiable place names and could lead one to believe they were looking at SE Asia - Colombus' goal, hence "Indians". That's why the Spanish nobility thought Colombus was nuts, they knew the approximate circumference of the world and couldn't fathom why SE Asia was so close.
But this map from Piri Re'is also shows Antarctica, supposedly not discovered until much later. The appearance of Antarctica on these old maps is dismissed by modern scholars as the depiction of a proposed land mass ancient mapmakers believed to be there to balance the world. The fact the maps are amazingly accurate in depicting Antarctica apparently doesn't faze "the consensus".
Archaeologists discovered a Roman sculpture buried in an Aztec temple, and the sculpture has been verifed as Roman dating to about AD100-200. Might explain the legends of Quetzalcoatl and Kukulcan, the bearded white man from across the eastern sea. One of the Mayan deity's was named "Votan", a name that does not resemble the indigenous langauge, but does resemble "Odin". But here's a real mystery , the Aztec name foe water and the eastern sea is "Atl" - Atlantic/Atlantis?
Try: "The Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings" by Charles Hapgood.
About that "Votan"-God I haven't heard a single word, although I know a couple of them."The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
"Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.
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Here's what I wrote on Civfanatics on the topic:
To be honest, I'm very sceptical. Again, as usually, the alleged Portuguese map of 1428 is not shown, only maps from after 1492. If this map existed, it were a unicate, for there's no other Portuguese map of that time that shows more than a few semi-mythical islands in the Atlantic (of course Portuguese scholars vow that these are actually discoveries of America which had been mistaken for islands...). Such singular maps without someone copying most parts is highly unusuak. And Piri Reis says on his map explicitly that he used a map of Columbus. Moreover, between the alleged discovery and the Portuguese map there's only a few years, no way, not even through Conti, the information would have spread so far so fast - it absolutely doesn't fit into the general patterns of scientific transfer. Third, the Chinese art of World Maps was, well, very underdevelopped compared to the Portuguese maps of those times. It's highly unlikely that they would have mapped their discovery in such a way that the Portuguese could have integrated the information in their map.
Findings of Chinese ships prior to 1500 are only alleged, no real evidence. A few odd objects (an anchor!), but nothing too convincing. The DNA analysis seems very unlikely to establish a link, sounds more like a hoax. Finally, the Chinese speaking people - WTF?! Not a single chronicler (and yes, some have also been to China) noticed that, more importantly no linguist pointed to similarities, that's simply bullsh*t.
But the tradition of the Chinese having discovered America is old and can already be found in the 17th century. It's not impossible either, but surely not this large expedition.
Resuming: Not much remains from the author's tale."The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
"Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.
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Dunno if the story is true, but I've always wondered why there was such a migration out into the Pacific, including to rather remote islands (Marquesas, anyone?) and then it just stopped. It just seems logical to me that someone would have ventured further out at some point, even though there was no colonization (and that's just timelines)."The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
"you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
"I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident
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Kontiki: How, then, do you explain the lack of e.g. pigs or ANY Polynesian agricultural product in the Americas (they've taken them WHEREVER they went)?"The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
"Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.
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Originally posted by Wernazuma III
Kontiki: How, then, do you explain the lack of e.g. pigs or ANY Polynesian agricultural product in the Americas (they've taken them WHEREVER they went)?"The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
"you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
"I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident
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Well, an isolated landing is definitely thinkable."The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
"Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.
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I thought the whole fleet turned around at the Cape because they had discovered all habitable land.
If they had kept going you would think they would have followed the coast north to Portugal instead of just venturing out across the Atlantic.
It would have shocked the bejezus out of the Portugese!!Be the bid!
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