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Well stability isn't everything.
But the other alternative is Russia + Indonesia. Not a pleasant choice.
But the other alternative is Russia + Indonesia. Not a pleasant choice.
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Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroff -
China has also periodically split apart, the last time less than 100 years ago.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Of course.Originally posted by DanS
China floundered around for 30 years looking for "ideological foundations", and looked at what happened.
Well, anything would look good in comparison to the choices the Chinese communists made for the first 30 years.
But that was the result of ideological stubbornness.Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroffComment
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Which shows how inherently unstable China is, being about the size of Europe, twice the population, and ten times the economic inequality.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
China has also periodically split apart, the last time less than 100 years ago.Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroffComment
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Which reminds me, China isn't completely back together yet. After all, Taiwan is still "independent."Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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"But that was the result of ideological stubbornness."
They just needed a better ideology to be stubborn about.
They didn't shop around for sh!t.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Yes....
point?Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroffComment
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I'm just demonstrating your point, ransk.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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I agree (I think). I'm not saying they should follow the example of those nations, by any means. Actually, I don't think they are doing that badly. Just saying that stablity isn't everything. They need to do better and I think they see that.Originally posted by ranskaldan
Well stability isn't everything.
But the other alternative is Russia + Indonesia. Not a pleasant choice."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Anyway, back to the headline of this thread, this seems like something new. I've heard about the local council experiments.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Actually, at this rate China is going, I don't understand any of the ideologies that China's trying to follow anymore.Originally posted by DanS
"But that was the result of ideological stubbornness."
They just needed a better ideology to be stubborn about.
They didn't shop around for sh!t.
Recently they've amended the party constitution so that instead of representing the proletariat, the "Communist" Party now represents "advanced productivity, cultural progress, and greater good." But that's just a less crude way of saying "make more money"! Doesn't sound remotely "communist" to me.
And now, democracy?! mmm... :/Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroffComment
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oh, alright.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I'm just demonstrating your point, ransk.
I apologize... I thought this was a re-start of that democracy-dictatorship debate.Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroffComment
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"I don't understand any of the ideologies that China's trying to follow anymore."
Stamp out all other ideologies. But this is a fool's game.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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DuncanK: yes, of course. Nothing can replace checks and balances.
Yep... local council experiments. They've done that in both rural (villages) and urban (residents' councils) settings. But I don't think they've ever let an entire city go its own way before... but I guess there's a first for everything.Originally posted by DanS
Anyway, back to the headline of this thread, this seems like something new. I've heard about the local council experiments.Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroffComment
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Good, they shouldn't follow ideologies. They should follow common sense. They might be on to something"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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