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China to Test "Western" Political Reforms In Shenzen
...starting this year. Could somebody help give us a clue on what the significance of this is? I'm especially interested that Jiang's man is heading it up, not any of Hu's men.
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891 -
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Could be good if it works....if it doesn't, then I'll just say "I told u so"
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I guess they realized that communism is a failure both on economic and politic fieldI will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
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I've been looking around Chinese news sites and haven't found any mention of this.
Weird!
(It's Shenzhen, by the way.)
Funny too how they called Singapore a "democracy".
I wouldn't hasten to call communism a political failure though. It's working fine as it is, keeping a country that is inherently unstable from falling apart like the Soviet Union.Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroffComment
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Can such government have real power in one city. Ultimately the Communist Party will have veto power, right?"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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"It's working fine as it is, keeping a country that is inherently unstable from falling apart like the Soviet Union."
China is inherently unstable!? It has stayed together for thousands of years....."I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
"I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - SlowwhandComment
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"I wouldn't hasten to call communism a political failure though."
Would any right-thinking communist adopt this bastard son of the rape of democracy?
Personally, I think this would just set them up for an Iran scenario.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Shi Huangdi:
Yes, China has stayed together for thousands of years, mainly due to the draconian, tyrannic governmental measures that were first set in stone by Shi Huangdi.
DanS:
China's leaders want economic development, and hence they would do whatever is possible to accelerate that. Notice that this "democratic" government's powers are mainly economic.
As for "right-thinking communists", I'd say that China's "communists" have abandoned that word, a long time ago.Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroffComment
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"I'd say that China's "communists" have betrayed that word, a long time ago."
I would agree. I would go further and suggest that what they are doing has no ideological foundation. Democracy's foundation is pretty simple--the rule of the majority.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Not everything needs an ideological foundation.
China floundered around for 30 years looking for "ideological foundations", and looked at what happened. The China switched to "make as much money as is possible", and look what happened instead.Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroffComment
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They made as much money as possible?No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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They created labour conditions right out of Dickens' books?12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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20 years ago there weren't any labour conditions to speak of.Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroffComment
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Good point. China seems to be very stable under this type of government. Stabitlity isn't everything however. I assume that's the point you were making though.Originally posted by ranskaldan
Shi Huangdi:
Yes, China has stayed together for thousands of years, mainly due to the draconian, tyrannic governmental measures that were first set in stone by Shi Huangdi.
"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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China floundered around for 30 years looking for "ideological foundations", and looked at what happened.
Well, anything would look good in comparison to the choices the Chinese communists made for the first 30 years.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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